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Chapter 435 Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 11 2009, 07:01 AM (19,609 Views)
Lunacy Divine	Feb 11 2009, 07:01 AM Post #1
Team Green Posts: 4,052 Group: Global Moderators Member #6,640 Joined: February 12, 2007	The spoilers are out. Shizune is confirmed dead and Ino's father notices something important pertaining to Pain. Discuss.



Zetsu4Real	Feb 11 2009, 07:02 AM Post #2
If I go crazy then will you still call me superman!? Posts: 1,946 Group: Member Member #15,288 Joined: October 11, 2008	Great, Cant wait to actually see some pictures.



~~Shock_Dragoon~~	Feb 11 2009, 07:17 AM Post #3
"Reign Over the Frozen Heavens, Hyorinmaru!" Posts: 1,624 Group: Missing-Nins Member #5,237 Joined: October 20, 2006	I wonder how Naruto wakes up. BUT DIDN'T I SAY PRETA WOULD TURN INTO A TOAD!? AND NO ONE BELIEVED ME! HA HA!



GoldenOrbs	Feb 11 2009, 07:29 AM Post #4
Jounin Posts: 2,537 Group: Member Member #2,044 Joined: March 27, 2006	Lol, Hungry Ghost got toadified. And I think Fukasaku got injured. And Shizune is dead to, wow.



ryz	Feb 11 2009, 07:43 AM Post #5
Why so serious, Shichirou? Posts: 1,931 Group: Member Member #14,093 Joined: July 7, 2008	Shock_Dragoon Feb 11 2009, 07:17 AM I wonder how Naruto wakes up. BUT DIDN'T I SAY PRETA WOULD TURN INTO A TOAD!? AND NO ONE BELIEVED ME! HA HA! Naruto wasn't knocked out, just drained of sage mode/chakra/whatever, so he doesn't have to "wake up". And actually, we all assumed that you turned in to a toad immediately. When he didn't we had to invent some other theory to fit his condition



Zetsu4Real	Feb 11 2009, 08:11 AM Post #6
If I go crazy then will you still call me superman!? Posts: 1,946 Group: Member Member #15,288 Joined: October 11, 2008	ryz Feb 11 2009, 07:43 AM Shock_Dragoon Feb 11 2009, 07:17 AM I wonder how Naruto wakes up. BUT DIDN'T I SAY PRETA WOULD TURN INTO A TOAD!? AND NO ONE BELIEVED ME! HA HA! Naruto wasn't knocked out, just drained of sage mode/chakra/whatever, so he doesn't have to "wake up". And actually, we all assumed that you turned in to a toad immediately. When he didn't we had to invent some other theory to fit his condition Yeah, because everyone had a moment where we wondered "Why didnt he turn into a toad?" So that makes us all correct on that theory.



RisenTerran	Feb 11 2009, 08:23 AM Post #7
Akatsuki Posts: 2,322 Group: Member Member #12,772 Joined: April 11, 2008	Lol -_- Pain aint no toad sage, lol... I don't get it... Which spoilers are real? The one where Naruto gets stabbed by the black rod & fukasaku gets hurt? Honestly, I've been calling for the death of those toads for a bit. The sad truth of the matter is they are jounin level SUMMONS. That is simply too much power to be able to call (if Naruto even knows how to call them. Remember it took even Jman time & a nice hole to hide in to summon them).



anuubis	Feb 11 2009, 08:30 AM Post #8
vibraniumCORTEX Posts: 397 Group: Member Member #9,747 Joined: September 1, 2007	I thought we needed spoilers with confirmed pics before the topic could be started...



kasanza30	Feb 11 2009, 08:42 AM Post #9
I've got my eye on you, Kishimoto.... Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,273 Joined: July 18, 2008	I just hope we get a confirmed "Kakashi lives" soon. Kishi totally cheaped him. I mean, how in the world did God Realm stab him in the first place. Kakashi has sharingan, for god's sake. GR isn't super fast. Even if he was, sharingan can follow it easy (VoTE, anyone?) and Kakashi was looking right at him. Unless that mud wall required his hands to stay glued to the ground after it already rose, lol. Damn Kishi, why screw over your best character just to powerup that boring Naruto. Sorry, just venting. Had a tough night. Well, here's hoping this chapter finally ends this dumb fight.



Kartoon-Man	Feb 11 2009, 08:47 AM Post #10
Blue Blues Posts: 6,333 Group: Member Member #10,741 Joined: October 31, 2007	No translation seems fully clear but it seems that Naruto is still in Konoha and there probably may not be any chase at all. Once Naruto is still conscious the clone may still be there. The only thing is, when and how would Naruto get his break.



Rikudou Sennin	Feb 11 2009, 08:50 AM Post #11
Genin Posts: 332 Group: Member Member #14,983 Joined: September 21, 2008	Shizune is in the spoilers confirmed dead. But lets wait what will happen if Pain dies.



Salamanca	Feb 11 2009, 08:55 AM Post #12
Jounin Posts: 1,905 Group: Member Member #12,768 Joined: April 11, 2008	The initial scene and 'the battle Naruto Vs Pain. Naruto :.... is absorbing my chakras hermitic .....! Fukasaku: Naruto Forgive Chan resist even a bit ... Naruto knows what to do and closed his eyes. Leave Chakra hermitic slide freely and the leaves absorb freely without resistance. The pods chakra absorbing Pain eyes and the face and limbs in toad convert. Deva Pain remains forbidden: What! Fukasaku himself: Gia 'and' so '! The Pain absorbs chakra, chakra has absorbed too hermitic why more and more dumb 'in toad. Good boy! Naruto tries to escape. Change scenario, is achieved by Shikamaru Ino, Inoichi and ANBU governing un'esanime Shizune. Shikamaru: Oh no! What 'success Shizune!? Ino: And'..... The scene moves on Gamabunta. Gamabunta: s*** ...! It seems to have a lot 'of broken bones. The two frogs are still on land with no knowledge. The scene up Shikamaru & company. Shikamaru: I understand ..... Ino in tears: If we had been more 'strengths this would never happened ...! Shikamaru: Shizune's death should not be useless, she was investigating the secret of Pain and his research from these we must go forward ....! Shikaku: Right, you Inoichi with your Jutsu should be able to understand the position of controller Pain. Inoichi: I know, I tried, but Pain is able to control the chakra in a way that I know absolutely impossible to understand his position. The scene back on Naruto. Naruto tries to free himself, Pain Fukasaku striking black with a sword, the same who killed Jiraiya. Fukasaku heavily to the ground. Pain turned to Fukasaku: You have done a really good job, but it ends here. Shima runs desperate to Fukasaku: My Husband! Naruto falls to the ground (note nikoru not clear why there is the ground, perhaps because 'without chakra?) Naruto: Do not you forgive 'ever .... (Nikoru note: start the madness Pain Show) Pain: Banshyo Knin Naruto is attracted towards Pain, Pain with the same sword with even as they Fukasaku (nikoru: live frogs in the oven) attempts to strike naruto, but Fukasaku effect gravita 'splashes away from the sword and hits Naruto. Pain Naruto grabs by the throat and threw it on the ground, with the same sword black as they can to Naruto left leg. Fukasaku is located on land with no sign of life with tears Shima in ink on him. Pain: Kyuubi, you should give a calmed with my Rinnegan Naruto: Cursed .... Why 'you are doing all that! Pain: Why'...? I was too concentrated in destroying Konoha reason to focus on .... But I see now that you remember why I did all this .... And now I will tell you'.... (Nikoru: Mi sa flashback coming ...) The scene returns to Shikamaru and co. Shikamaru: The information Katsuyu not enough, we discover a little more 'to develop a strategy, the bodies of those killed by Pain shinobi could have important information. INOC shelled eyes: Wait a second ... I've understood, I know what to do!



Lunacy Divine	Feb 11 2009, 08:58 AM Post #13
Team Green Posts: 4,052 Group: Global Moderators Member #6,640 Joined: February 12, 2007	anuubis Feb 11 2009, 08:30 AM I thought we needed spoilers with confirmed pics before the topic could be started... No, we need confirmed spoilers, and we already have them.



~~Shock_Dragoon~~	Feb 11 2009, 09:10 AM Post #14
"Reign Over the Frozen Heavens, Hyorinmaru!" Posts: 1,624 Group: Missing-Nins Member #5,237 Joined: October 20, 2006	Got to say, it's pretty good, but the last chapter made it seem Hinata and Nine Tails were to take the spotlight so I'm kinda disappointed. But I guess Naruto should beat Pain without Nine Tails to further damage the demon fox's pride



ryz	Feb 11 2009, 09:26 AM Post #15
Why so serious, Shichirou? Posts: 1,931 Group: Member Member #14,093 Joined: July 7, 2008	okey two spoilers on the mangahelpers spoiler page: http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46138 Spoiler 1- Spoiler: click to toggle Verification: pending 仙術チャクラを吸収されたナルト�！！ Naruto's Sage Chakra was absorbed...!! ナルト:まだ�まだだ� Naruto: Not yet... It's not over yet... 長門:なかなかしぶといな Deva Pain: You are quite stubborn 吸収ペイン羽交い締めにしつつチャクラを奪いに入る While being held down by Hungry-Ghost Pain, Naruto's chakra is being absorbed ナルト:�！ Naruto: ...! フカサク:耐えてくれナルトちゃんよ！ Fukasaku: Please hold on, Naruto-chan! ナルト: (なるほど�そういう事か� なら�動けねぇからちょうどいい�) Naruto: (Realizes something) I see...That's it... I'd better stay still... 目を閉じ、チャクラを吸いとられ～動かずいたら�吸収ペインの顔つきが蛙になりはじめる� Naruto closes his eyes, absorbs chakra, stays still... Hungry-Ghost Pain's face starts to turn into a frog... 長門:！？ Deva Pain: ?! ナルト:自然エネルギーは扱いが難しいんだってばよ！ Naruto: It is difficult to handle natural energy! It's a work in progress... I'll post the rest as soon as I finish them... Spoiler 2- Spoiler: click to toggle Naruto :.... It absorbs my chakra ...! Fukasaku: Naruto Chan forgive me, you have to resist a little ... Pani naruto leaves absorb his chakra and he closes his eyes. It's a plan! It seems that Naruto wants his bread absorbs energy without resistance. Pain sudden change: her eyes and her face and its members become those of a toad! God Pain: "What!" Fukasaku: Haha! Well done! Bread has absorbed too much natural chakra and that is why more and more it becomes a toad. Bravo! Naruto tries to escape. Change of scene: You see Shikamaru Ino and Inoichi Anbu before Shizune. Shikamaru: Oh no! Shizune is dead? Ino :..... The scene moves to Gamabunta. Gamabunta: "s*** ...!" He seems to have a lot of broken bones. The two frogs are still on the ground, unconscious. The scene Shikamaru & Company. Shikamaru: I understand ..... Ino crying: If we were stronger ca would never come ...! Shikamaru: Shizune's death should not be unnecessary, it was investigating the secret of Pain and his search for these products, we must move forward ....! Shikaku: Go with your Jutsu Inoichi you must be able to understand the position of control Pain. Inoichi: I know I tried, but Pain is able to control the chakra in a way that I know absolutely impossible to understand his position. The scene back on Naruto. Naruto tries to break free, Pain Fukasaku is black with a sword, the same who killed Jiraiya. Fukasaku is heavily ground. Pain turned Fukasaku: You've done a good job, but it ends here. Shima desperately short Fukasaku: My darling! Naruto falls on the ground. Naruto: I do forgive thee never ... Pain: Banshyo Knin Naruto is attracted to Pain, Pain is with the same weapon with which he attacked Fukasaku. Pain hits Naruto. Pain takes Naruto to the throat and threw on the ground with the black sword. Fukasaku is on the ground with no signs of life with tears Shima him. Pain: Kyuubi makes you against my Rinnegan Naruto: Either cursed ... Why you do this? Pain: Why'...? I was too concentrated in the destruction of Konoha ... But I see now that you remember why I made this .... And now I'll tell you ... The scene returns to Shikamaru and co. Shikamaru: Katsuyu Information is not enough, we need to know a little something more to develop a strategy, the bodies of people killed by Pain could have important information. INOC bombed eyes: Wait a second ... I understand, I know what to do Okey seriously, what's the whole deal with "bread"? we had it pop out of no where last time too... PS. They both seem a bit real, since both have the Pain "toadified" thingie :)



Kartoon-Man	Feb 11 2009, 09:27 AM Post #16
Blue Blues Posts: 6,333 Group: Member Member #10,741 Joined: October 31, 2007	I look forward to something a bit clearer to understand. Hopefully Pa is not dead but injured. I believe Naruto is also injured but not by much. And fat Pain's absorption really goes into his body and not really a link to another dimension. If he can be affected by the natural energy, then it could mean that absorbed jutsu is reused to fuel Pain's chakra source. It's a possibility.



8.Tails.Killer.B	Feb 11 2009, 09:34 AM Post #17
Ninja Academy Student Posts: 23 Group: Member Member #16,916 Joined: February 9, 2009	....... i know how pain got turned into a frog since he has the sage chackra doesnt he hav to b incredibly still lol he wasnt and frogifide



GoldenOrbs	Feb 11 2009, 09:38 AM Post #18
Jounin Posts: 2,537 Group: Member Member #2,044 Joined: March 27, 2006	ryz Feb 11 2009, 09:26 AM okey two spoilers on the mangahelpers spoiler page: http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46138 Spoiler 1- Spoiler: click to toggle Verification: pending 仙術チャクラを吸収されたナルト�！！ Naruto's Sage Chakra was absorbed...!! ナルト:まだ�まだだ� Naruto: Not yet... It's not over yet... 長門:なかなかしぶといな Deva Pain: You are quite stubborn 吸収ペイン羽交い締めにしつつチャクラを奪いに入る While being held down by Hungry-Ghost Pain, Naruto's chakra is being absorbed ナルト:�！ Naruto: ...! フカサク:耐えてくれナルトちゃんよ！ Fukasaku: Please hold on, Naruto-chan! ナルト: (なるほど�そういう事か� なら�動けねぇからちょうどいい�) Naruto: (Realizes something) I see...That's it... I'd better stay still... 目を閉じ、チャクラを吸いとられ～動かずいたら�吸収ペインの顔つきが蛙になりはじめる� Naruto closes his eyes, absorbs chakra, stays still... Hungry-Ghost Pain's face starts to turn into a frog... 長門:！？ Deva Pain: ?! ナルト:自然エネルギーは扱いが難しいんだってばよ！ Naruto: It is difficult to handle natural energy! It's a work in progress... I'll post the rest as soon as I finish them... Spoiler 2- Spoiler: click to toggle Naruto :.... It absorbs my chakra ...! Fukasaku: Naruto Chan forgive me, you have to resist a little ... Pani naruto leaves absorb his chakra and he closes his eyes. It's a plan! It seems that Naruto wants his bread absorbs energy without resistance. Pain sudden change: her eyes and her face and its members become those of a toad! God Pain: "What!" Fukasaku: Haha! Well done! Bread has absorbed too much natural chakra and that is why more and more it becomes a toad. Bravo! Naruto tries to escape. Change of scene: You see Shikamaru Ino and Inoichi Anbu before Shizune. Shikamaru: Oh no! Shizune is dead? Ino :..... The scene moves to Gamabunta. Gamabunta: "s*** ...!" He seems to have a lot of broken bones. The two frogs are still on the ground, unconscious. The scene Shikamaru & Company. Shikamaru: I understand ..... Ino crying: If we were stronger ca would never come ...! Shikamaru: Shizune's death should not be unnecessary, it was investigating the secret of Pain and his search for these products, we must move forward ....! Shikaku: Go with your Jutsu Inoichi you must be able to understand the position of control Pain. Inoichi: I know I tried, but Pain is able to control the chakra in a way that I know absolutely impossible to understand his position. The scene back on Naruto. Naruto tries to break free, Pain Fukasaku is black with a sword, the same who killed Jiraiya. Fukasaku is heavily ground. Pain turned Fukasaku: You've done a good job, but it ends here. Shima desperately short Fukasaku: My darling! Naruto falls on the ground. Naruto: I do forgive thee never ... Pain: Banshyo Knin Naruto is attracted to Pain, Pain is with the same weapon with which he attacked Fukasaku. Pain hits Naruto. Pain takes Naruto to the throat and threw on the ground with the black sword. Fukasaku is on the ground with no signs of life with tears Shima him. Pain: Kyuubi makes you against my Rinnegan Naruto: Either cursed ... Why you do this? Pain: Why'...? I was too concentrated in the destruction of Konoha ... But I see now that you remember why I made this .... And now I'll tell you ... The scene returns to Shikamaru and co. Shikamaru: Katsuyu Information is not enough, we need to know a little something more to develop a strategy, the bodies of people killed by Pain could have important information. INOC bombed eyes: Wait a second ... I understand, I know what to do Okey seriously, what's the whole deal with "bread"? we had it pop out of no where last time too... PS. They both seem a bit real, since both have the Pain "toadified" thingie :) Oh crap, Naruto has just proved that if bread absorbs to much chakra, it turns into a toad. Be sure to keep your bread in a chakra proof bread box guys. Oh and Inoichi got his eyes bombed right when he solved the mystery, crazy stuff. Lol, translations are funny.



Kartoon-Man	Feb 11 2009, 09:39 AM Post #19
Blue Blues Posts: 6,333 Group: Member Member #10,741 Joined: October 31, 2007	Now that five of Pain's bodies reached the point of no return, I wonder if Yahiko Pain would survive or not. I wonder also would he gain the power of all the other Pain's in one body and have less energy to work with. Whatever Inoichi finds out better be good. Hopefully it's something no one has figured out.



JediKnight	Feb 11 2009, 09:45 AM Post #20
Sentinel of the force Posts: 1,341 Group: Member Member #14,909 Joined: September 13, 2008	This chapter seems promising, but still no confirmation on Kakashi. This is really getting annoying. We have a confirmation on Shizune's death but Kakashi is still in the air. I wonder about you sometimes Kishi. Whoa Pa toad might be dead, who's gonna train Naruto if Pa toad dies? Inochi and crew might have a plan about Pain I hope the plan fails. But chapter 436 will be a flashback, we'll get some more answers about Pain, Akasuki, and Yahiko. Edited by JediKnight, Feb 11 2009, 09:46 AM.



Kartoon-Man	Feb 11 2009, 09:48 AM Post #21
Blue Blues Posts: 6,333 Group: Member Member #10,741 Joined: October 31, 2007	Source: 2ch Verification: Confirmed (By Mona, the Bleach Spoiler Provider) 435 Naruto's Senjutsu chakra is absorbed...!! Naruto: No... not yet... Nagato: you're pretty persistent... Absorbing Pain strengthens his hold on Naruto and comes to steal his chakra Naruto: ...! Fukasaku: Persevere Naruto-chan! Naruto: (Hmm... I get it... then... it works out well that I can't move.) He closes his eyes, chakra gets sucked up~ and when Naruto doesn't move, Absorbing Pain's face startes to become frog-like Nagato: !? Naruto: Natural Energy (chakra) is difficult to handle! Absorbing Pain's leg and face become a frog. Nagato: This... Fukasaku observes this (I see! That Pain was absorbing too much of Naruto-chan's Senjutsu chakra and had turned into the [frog-stone]!) Naruto tries to break loose Nagato:! Scene change Ino: Shikamaru! Ino, Ino-dad, Anbu and anbu-carrying Shizune arrive to shikamar Shiho:!? Shikamaru: ! Ino - you were all right? Ino: Yeah... but Shizune-san was... Shikamaru: Wait... is she...? Scene ends Bunta: Dammit! (My bones all over broken! Ouch...!) The other frogs are down too. Scene to Shikamaru guys again Shikamaru: I see... is that what happened... Shizune is lying on her side Ino: If we were more cautious... this would not have... Shikamaru: ... we can't waste Shizune-senpai's death. Let's figure out the mystery of Pain that she was working on, and no excuses until we find the 'real body' of his! Shikaku: ...Shikamaru you need to put it a little bit kinder... Ino dad: No... it's exactly how Shikamaru put it. What we must do now is to figure out where the real body of Pain is. Shikaku: Inoichi - someone of your skill should be able to pick up the enemy's chakra and figure out where the real body of Pain is... right? Ino dad: I have already tried... the enemy is constantly changing the frequency of his chakra. Tracing it is impossible. Scene to Naruto Fukasaku is stabbed by Nagato's sword (the same one that stabbed Jiraiya) Nagato: quite formidable... Naruto trips Shima:Tou-chan! (Fukasaku) Naruto glares Naruto: You!... Seriou...!! He tries to punch Nagato, but Nagato swings the sword that stabbed Fukasaku, Fukasaku is thrown off the sword and towards Naruto Nagato raises his left hand, does his drawing-objects-toward-him jutsu When Naruto's movements stop, Nagato grabs Naruto's neck. Naruto drops Fukasaku. Nagato slams Naruto to the ground. Naruto: Gua! When slamming him down, Nagato stabs Naruto's left hand with his sword. The rinnegan appears 'behind' Naruto (we have seen this a couple times before - Jiraiya, Kakashi) Nagato: will you settle down a bit now, Kyuubi? Naruto: Ggg.. Fukasaku is down. Shima is crying. Naruto: What the hell are you!!? What the hell do you want!!? Why do you do this!!? Nagato: Why... Everything happens all of a sudden. The reasons you realize after the events have passed. I see... let's chat a bit... Scene to Shikamaru Shikamaru: Gather information via Katsuyu from all the people that have come in contact with Pain. Those that have passed away may have also left some information. We'll carry out dead bodies if we have to! Ino dad: ...! (carrying a dead body) wait... i see - I think I (am beginning to) understand! Edited by Kartoon-Man, Feb 11 2009, 10:08 AM.



RisenTerran	Feb 11 2009, 09:54 AM Post #22
Akatsuki Posts: 2,322 Group: Member Member #12,772 Joined: April 11, 2008	Reading that things sound pretty darn bleak lol! A non-lethal stab wound doesn't work on Naruto, though. We say that authoritativly at the VOTE battle. So since Nagato NEEDS Naruto, this sword will only help in forcing out the fox, lol. So team Shika is trying to find Nagato... Hmmm...



Akatstewie	Feb 11 2009, 09:55 AM Post #23
Genin Posts: 467 Group: Member Member #8,577 Joined: June 23, 2007	I gotta admit Kishi has surprised me yet again. I never expected Fat Pain to turn into a frog. Poor Shizune :(



Dynamic Entry	Feb 11 2009, 10:03 AM Post #24
Genin Posts: 429 Group: Member Member #11,392 Joined: December 29, 2007	it seems like hes going to make naruto kill fukusaku or something.



RisenTerran	Feb 11 2009, 10:17 AM Post #25
Akatsuki Posts: 2,322 Group: Member Member #12,772 Joined: April 11, 2008	Oh hey, Naruto still has one Sage Clone left, correct?



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