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| If you could change one event in the series' history... | |
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| Topic Started: Apr 24 2009, 05:29 AM (8,710 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Apr 24 2009, 05:29 AM Post #1 |
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Several events of the series are domino effects. If one thing never happened, then another would have occured differently or not at all. If you were on control of the direction events take, what single event would you change the outcome of to topple the dominos in your version? How would the outcome affect the rest of the series as a whole? Try to keep things relevant to the only event - for example, if you change the history of one character, it can't have anything to do with an unrelated character unless they've interacted somehow. |
 
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| FictionReader98 | Apr 24 2009, 07:13 AM Post #2 |
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The first thing that comes to my mind is Sasuke being defeated by Orochimaru when he tries to attack him back in Chapter 343. So let's see... Orochimaru has those preparations he commented about and uses them to utterly defeat Sasuke. One of those, I suppose, could can an 'override' function on the Curse Seal, taking away it's power and leaving Sasuke paralyzed. The end result would be that Orochimaru moves to take his body, but at the last second manages to escape and flee the place. Sasuke is now alone in the world with no allies (pretend or otherwise) and a weaken and broken state. News of this reaches Konoha of Sasuke's attempted assassination and situation. Tsunade authorizes Naruto with his friend Team 8 and 10 (as well as misc Leaf ninja for more manpower) to hunt down Sasuke before Orochimaru can. This results in both Leaf and Orochimaru's forces in a big manhunt for the boy, with both sides clashing several times while they search for the missing Uchiha. At this time, Sasuke is at the low point of his life and he actually is getting second thoughts on what he has done and if it actually was worth it. Team 7 and Orochimaru's elite guys (use your imagination on who they are) both find him at the same time and a big melee begins. At one point one goes after Sasuke, and Naruto takes a hit for him, making Sasuke wonder what the heck is going on. Naruto replies that he has a promise to keep to Sakura to bring him back... right before he turnes around and smacks Sasuke hard in the face, proclaiming that he has the right to kick his butt because that is what friends do. The fighting continues with Team 7 victorious and hoping to take Sasuke back to Konoha. He declines, saying that he doesn't deserve any mercy or kindness for the betrayal he did to them. He says that one day maybe that can change, but for now, he has to try and change himself before he can come back and attone for what he did. He then leaves them disappearing into the countryside, lost to all sides. Orochimaru learns of his men's failure and is forced to take a new body as he thinks about his new goal that will make him more powerful than ever. The Leaf ninja return to the village somewhat content, as while they didn't bring Sasuke home, they did "save him" from the most dangerous person to him: himself. Naruto is optmistic that Sasuke will return to the Leaf one day as he goes to Kakashi and asks him to train him. It's now time to go on the offensive and deal with Akatsuki before they can accomplish their plans. Naruto says that they must find any of the other survivoring Jinchuuriki and bring them to safety. Use your imagination on how it would go on from there. Obviously, just this change wouldn't affect the Akatsuki portion of the plot, such as Pain and his backstory, but I would like to think it would still improve the quality with not so much Uchiha focus and impact on the storyline, as well as moving Naruto on a different direction to fight Akatsuki with Naruto giving them the full attention they need and not having to resort to Jiraiya's death for him to do this. At this time, the only other Jinchuuriki left would be Roshi and Killer Bee, so it would give us some development on Roshi. How was that? |
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| Sardaukar | Apr 24 2009, 07:16 AM Post #3 |
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I actually rather liked that, myself. Ironically, there is an override function to the curse seal, as Orochimaru subdues Anko with a gesture back in the Forest of Death chapters, though having his hands pierced through by Sasuke's Chidori sword/spear might have negated that. Yeah, I can't pick just one event; there's so much I would change that just picking one isn't an easy task. I'll give it some time and perhaps hammer out an idea. Edited by Sardaukar, Apr 24 2009, 07:17 AM.
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| BadKent | Apr 24 2009, 09:19 AM Post #4 |
Your soul belongs to me now...
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I would like to change the event that started the whole Sasuke deal. The death of all uchia clan. I would have liked to see Sasuke actually grow up with Naruto and continue to push each other to the point where both of them would have achieve the levels they are at right now in a much shorter time frame. Not only that, Orochi would still be alive and being chased across the countries for his crimes and more battles with better opponents would come from this. Eliminating the korny cries of Naruto for Sasuke, Akatsuki would still be chasing Naruto. The difference would be that Naruto would actually be prepared for once in his life!!! The sharingan would not be overrated, it would actually be something to praise and would evolve farther than what it is, of course, this thanks to Kakashi training sasuke. Sasuke and Naruto would have the same relationship as Gai and Kakashi were respect and admiration for one another keeps them on their toes and drives them to continue to out due each other. This, IMO, is the one event that would change this whole Manga worth reading religiously... My 2 cents! |
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| Syndacite | Apr 24 2009, 09:51 AM Post #5 |
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This was an idea that Highwind was pimping a while ago that I agree with fully. I expanded a little bit on the concept but it still remains fairly intact My biggest thing I wish I could made the Jinchuuriki more of the focus in Pt 2. After there failed attempt to bring Sasuke back a second time and at the period where Naruto would be doing Elemental training. I would remove the elemental training and the immortals arc and replace it with a different event. Because unknown to the others somebody spotted Naruto's 4 tailed released form and informed there group that they found him. A mysterious group of 6 people arrive at Konoha after Naruto's return, causing Konoha to become frightened by their chakra levels. But, upon Tsunade's demand for their identity once they are surrounded by all of Konoha. The announce that they are Jinchuuriki just like Naruto. The leader of this all Jinchuuriki group would be Killer Bee, and there reason for coming was because they want Naruto to join there group in order to combat Akatsuki. However after seeing Naruto's using his powers against Orochimaru they realize that he still needs much training in controlling his powers. And because of this lack of training, one of the members of the Shichibi Jinchuuriki goes so far as to call Naruto weak, as well as goes out of her way to piss him off through out their many encounters. This eventually leads to a spar match where Naruto tries in vain to defeat her and to prove her wrong only to be effortlessly defeated by her, learning that she was holding back immensely. Even with his Kyubi forms up to 3 tails he was no match for just 1 of her tailed forms. She reveals that his chakra is far greater then hers, but his power is unfocused and much of it is wasted on the air rather then towards a specific target. Killer Bee watches the two on from the distance with interest. Silently remembering back when he first met Shichibi Jinchuuriki and how she always lost to him. Even he at this point realizes that Naruto's potential is far greater then even his own. And it is for that reason they have to train him, because Akatsuki will be on the move again. Sometime during Naruto's training with the group, Yugito heads out to town to go pick up some things from the market only to have two shady individuals following her. Sensing trouble, she quickly moves out to a place where no civilians will be harmed to confront these people. From the shadows comes to individuals in dark cloaks revealed as two members of Akatsuki, Hidan and Kakuzu. Yugito unleashes her powers knowing full well that she was outnumbered and that this fight could get ugly. Her powers unleashed cause the other Jinchuuriki to detect her and sense that something is wrong, recognizing the Nibi is being unleashing. Kiler Bee calls for the others to hurry up to aide Yugito, but halfway towards their destination they pick up that Nibi's chakra levels have dropped. And by the time they arrive its too late, Yugito has been captured and they have lost a good friend and ally to the Akatsuki organization. Reasons for this change:
Edited by Syndacite, Apr 24 2009, 11:40 AM.
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| FictionReader98 | Apr 24 2009, 10:07 AM Post #6 |
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Very nice indeed. Makes me very curious what you would do with all the other Jinchuuriki running around and how you would go about explaining how they teamed up and all (given they are all from different countries). Though I doubt we can go into a discussion about that given that's not the topic. Pity that. There are two things I am curious about. The first one was that Gaara was captured first, then Yugito. Does that mean in your version the Jinchuuriki have to be sealed in order from 1 to 9? The second would be what would you do with Sasuke as a result of all these changes, if he is affected by them at all? Thank you kindly. |
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| Syndacite | Apr 24 2009, 10:52 AM Post #7 |
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Given the topic. We can discuss why people would make there changes. However we can't go beyond that to where it would seem like we are discussing plans. So, here are some brief answers to your questions. Teaming up could have happened in a variety of ways. Their villages either abandoned them, one was being chased by a member of Akatsuki only to be thwarted by another Jinchuuriki whom came to save them, prior to seeking out Naruto.
Nope it doesn't require any particular order. So, it doesn't matter who gets sealed first before the other one.
Sasuke would be kept to a minimum for the time being at least during this part of the changed story. However another major change would be making Itachi into a true psychopath he was back when he revealed he was seeking to use Sasuke to restore his own vision. Making him his actions of massacring the family all the more selfish and sinister. Thus giving Sasuke a major antagonist to overcome. Perhaps more skirmished between the two can happen through out this take of the Naruto manga. Given that Itachi's assigned target is the Kyubi. This could also increase the likely hood of more Sasuke/Naruto encounters. Because Sasuke seeks out Itachi, where as Itachi seeks out Naruto causing more problems between the two former comrades. Perhaps Sasuke may seek to kill Naruto to prevent Akatsuki from achieving there goals or using his former friend as bait to lure out Itachi? The possibilities are endless. Orochimaru is also an individual I would like to keep around in this version as well as he provides a great amount of villainy in his actions. So, obviously Sasuke wont kill him in this alternate verse. Whether or not Sasuke betrays Orochimaru and breaks away from his group, is beyond the scope of this topic as you previously stated. So, this discussion would have to be moved to another area to discuss. EDIT:Fixed the quote error Edited by Syndacite, Apr 24 2009, 10:54 AM.
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| strawrange | Apr 24 2009, 11:11 AM Post #8 |
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I would probably change the fact that Naruto came back after 3 years of training without any results. For instance, wind ninjutsu training could have been accomplished easily over the time-skip, without having to waste chapter after chapter watching Naruto train. Naruto would have mastered a few other highly ranked techniques as well. How would this change the course of the story? Well in a few ways, one can only speculate. I'll be brief to explain what I believe could have happened differently. It's possible that Naruto could have defeated Deidara for good. This would not impact the story that much other than the fact that someone else from Akatsuki would have to fight Sasuke later on. With the Sasuke retrieval arc... Let's assume that nothing changed here either. If Naruto returned to Konoha only to realize he needed to train more, then he could have started his senjutsu training at that point. I'm not exactly going to say how he would be approached to do this training, but let's assume this were the case. Hidan and Kakuzu could have continued to live, searched for hosts, and so on. Or... have team Gai/Kurenai show their growth by defeating Hidan and Kakuzu. This way, they will be given the spotlight that they have lacked in part 2. Naruto would return to Konoha having mastered senjutsu at the point Jiraiya is about to leave for Amegakure. Then Naruto would join him along with a few others. This way Jiraiya could have either stayed alive or died after the defeat of Pain. I think if Jiraiya died at this point next to Naruto, it would have been much better. The "destiny child" prophesy crap would be cut away from the story. Maybe during Jiraiya's last moments, have Naruto learn about the key and his parents. This way we could avoid Minato's "necessary presence" in Naruto's conscious entirely. That would be cut from the story as well. Ehhh, not so much of a change, but at least I think the story could have flowed a bit better. I would change Pain's entire persona. Concentrate a bit more on the rinnegan. Little changes... Anyways, that's one thing I would change. There are so many choices as Sardaukar stated. It's really hard to choose which one to pick. Syndacite's change is also very good. It allows for Naruto to concentrate mainly on learning how to control the Kyuubi. This way senjustu training could be altogether avoided as it would have been unnecessary. |
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| Sardaukar | Apr 24 2009, 12:13 PM Post #9 |
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Actually, Syndacite, unless I'm sorely mistaken, the Kyuubi has to be sealed last or the imbalance will cause the King of Hell statue to be destroyed in some manner; other than that, the Biju can be captured/sealed in any order, as Gaara was the third to be sealed. |
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| Lunacy Divine | Apr 24 2009, 03:00 PM Post #10 |
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I can list several things, but for one, Nagato is killed in the explosion during the battle between the Sannin and Hanzou as a child, meaning no Pain. There still might be a villainous organization with perhaps a different name and maybe even the same baddies, with Tobi using someone else as the leader -- I say this because Minato states that Tobi is using Pain, which probably doesn't exclude the Bijuu capturing. This would mean that Madara is also after them. This change is because I personally view Pain as the worst villain in the entire series, not only through his history but the very aspects of his character and personality. |
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| Twilight_Ninja | Apr 24 2009, 03:44 PM Post #11 |
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I would probably have erased Orochimaru. As a villain, he was kinda dry and not very special. Thus, anything that happened as a result of Orochimaru would not have happened. Instead, I would have had Kabuto as the leader of Oto. Also, I would have had Pain/Nagato be the true leader of Akatsuki. I still think he's the best villain this series has ever known. Despite his motivations, his goal is just the most interesting of every single villain in this series. |
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| Syndacite | Apr 24 2009, 03:47 PM Post #12 |
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Yep that is correct. However in my version I probably would have changed it so that the Kyubi didn't have to be sealed last. Either way it wouldn't really affect much the what I would change overall, if it was sealed before or after the others were sealed. Edited by Syndacite, Apr 24 2009, 03:49 PM.
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| Deleted User | Apr 24 2009, 04:11 PM Post #13 |
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Er, Twilight Ninja, this is changing events, not completely rewriting, try to read the topic's description. |
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| Salamanca | Apr 24 2009, 04:37 PM Post #14 |
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One thing that i would change............... Naruto turning on iruka when mitzuki asked for the scroll. Naruto would left with mitzuki to Oru. Naruto ends up working for Oru and gtes trained by him. Naruto helps Oru with sasuke in the forest of death. But Naruto escapes When he learns about akaski and the bijuu thing. |
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| Kartoon-Man | Apr 24 2009, 05:15 PM Post #15 |
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One thing I would have changed was Naruto's jutsu arsenal at the beginning of the time skip. Specifically with earth type jutsu learnt from Jiraiya. This could have resulted in a change in all of Naruto's battles and the lessening of the use of rasengan. He could of used it against Kakashi while they did the bell test. Also with Deidara. That fight could of been different. With Naruto and Deidara both using their earth type jutsu and equaling the score before Kakashi showed us his new MS. This would of future resulted in Kakashi wanting to find out if Naruto's real nature was earth and finding out it was really wind. Similar to how Sasuke always used fire then to realise he was lightning naturally. Then we could have had the scenario in which Naruto said it took him two years under Jiraiya to utilize earth making the shadow clone training seem effective enough. The battle with Kakuzu would have been better. Naruto just basically ran to the guy and hit him a FRS. He would have at least had the usage of earth and shadow clones to make an effective fight before getting to hit Kakuzu. Also after learning senjutsu he would have completed FRS. Also while learning frog taijutsu Pa could of shown him the swamp jutsu at least. Something of substance would have been shown while fighting Pain. We basically just saw rasengan and shadow clone. Seeing as they had so much space, the earth could have dealt with a little more shaking. |
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Apr 24 2009, 05:22 PM Post #16 |
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I would change Sasuke beating Naruto instead to Naruto defeating him or Sasuke not dying by Deidara's Suicide Bomb or Sasuke getting killed by KillerBee during their fight You catch my drift. Edited by Natsu, Apr 24 2009, 05:23 PM.
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| Zetsu4Real | Apr 24 2009, 05:37 PM Post #17 |
If I go crazy then will you still call me superman!?
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The only drift im catching is that im glad you don't write the story <_< |
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| Chuffy | Apr 24 2009, 05:46 PM Post #18 |
Shut up Naruto
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Madara doesn't throw a hissyfit when Konoha is founded. Leaf remains incredibly stable with little internal troubles thanks to the Uchiha Clan not trying to stir things up. Events like the sand/sound invasion are defeated decisively and others such as the Kyuubi attack probably don't happen at all. A powerful renegade organisation might still exist but without Madara's guiding hand who knows how it would operate; would Pain even be a factor? Basically the entire plot changes. Edited by Chuffy, Apr 24 2009, 05:48 PM.
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| Zetsu4Real | Apr 24 2009, 05:48 PM Post #19 |
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If I go crazy then will you still call me superman!?
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Oh come on, you can't say you wouldn't have thrown a hissy fit too if you were in his place. It was like dead give away when the first had a son he was gonna want him to be his successor. Especially since he was his rival. |
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| Chuffy | Apr 24 2009, 05:50 PM Post #20 |
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Shut up Naruto
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And what does whether or not Madara's actions were justified or not have to do with this topic? |
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Apr 24 2009, 05:50 PM Post #21 |
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Uh Oh. I was joking but there might be another Sasuke fan-boy among us... |
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| Tenchi Masaki | Apr 24 2009, 05:51 PM Post #22 |
I choose Ryoko
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gaara bijuu being taken away from him and the 3rd hokage dying |
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| Zetsu4Real | Apr 24 2009, 05:53 PM Post #23 |
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If I go crazy then will you still call me superman!?
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Was under the impression we could discuss why certain people would change certain things. My bad chief <_< |
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| Chuffy | Apr 24 2009, 05:59 PM Post #24 |
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Shut up Naruto
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And yet you aren't discussing why I made a change, you're objecting to the term 'hissyfit'. Your bad indeed. Edited by Chuffy, Apr 24 2009, 05:59 PM.
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| Zetsu4Real | Apr 24 2009, 06:02 PM Post #25 |
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If I go crazy then will you still call me superman!?
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Well someones in a bad mood... If I were using sarcasm I would have added /sarcasm when I said "my bad chief". I was actually saying "sorry" about asking why you made a change. I misunderstood and thought that was part of this topic, but now I know it isn't. |
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