Chapter 451 Discussion

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Chapter 451 Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 10 2009, 04:18 AM (18,626 Views)
Dilandau	Jun 10 2009, 10:01 AM Post #26
Camp Is Cool! Posts: 4,773 Group: Member Member #12,631 Joined: March 14, 2008	Spoilers indicate this should be a good chapter. It's good to see Danzou making the order to kill Sasuke, I doubt the Cloud Nin would do anything to try and persuade him otherwise. It'll be interesting to see how Danzou reacts to the invitation to the Kage meeting. It's a bit of a random time to have Tazuna and Inari come back into the fray. It's nice to see them tough and it'll be good to see how their country has fared since Team 7 left.



ryz	Jun 10 2009, 10:05 AM Post #27
Why so serious, Shichirou? Posts: 1,931 Group: Member Member #14,093 Joined: July 7, 2008	naruto71 Jun 10 2009, 10:00 AM Yuukimaru Jun 10 2009, 09:19 AM Wonder what Tazuna wants to speak to Sasuke about?? Mabe why he wanted zabuza's sword? No, I believe he asked in a general, "Hey, so where is that ~~emo~~ Sasuke fellow that was with you last time?" way. He doesn't know Sasuke has split. PS. The Chapter title is missing an "r" Edited by ryz, Jun 10 2009, 10:06 AM.



Alpine	Jun 10 2009, 10:13 AM Post #28
Chuunin Posts: 520 Group: Member Member #13,566 Joined: June 4, 2008	Quote: She is the hokage, if she might not have known before that, she most certainly could have know after becoming hokage, she could view any classified material she wanted. This was not a classified document, it was a secret between four people. It is not in any files. Tsunade didnt know about it and Madara stated only Danzou, Elders and him knew about the massacre. Also as you said Danzou already tried to assassinate Sasuke, and please not because he wanted a blame to be on Oro its because he wasn't in power to issue that order. But that wasn't my point, the point is Tsunade should have given the order to kill Sasuke, and even if elders tried to persuade her otherwise she stopped listening to them since part 2.



Akatstewie	Jun 10 2009, 10:21 AM Post #29
Genin Posts: 467 Group: Member Member #8,577 Joined: June 23, 2007	Yuukimaru Jun 10 2009, 09:19 AM Wonder what Tazuna wants to speak to Sasuke about?? Well, Sasuke and Suigetsu did defile Zabuza's grave a bit. Who knows what else they did when they visited the Land of Mist. I was hoping that we would get into the Anko/Sai vs. OrochiKabuto arc to slow things down a bit, but it looks like Kishi is really driving part 2 closer to it's end.



honoric	Jun 10 2009, 10:29 AM Post #30
Ninja Academy Student Posts: 238 Group: Member Member #17,023 Joined: February 25, 2009	Yes, Tsunade should have give the order to kill sasuke ... but he was the best friend of Naruto, the boy who change her mind and everithing so she choose to believe in him let him try to bring sasuke back. at this time Danzo and the elders didn,t argue because they were scare of itachi so they let it be.... Danzo wait until he has a chance, the meeting with sasori spy ( a person close to orochimaru) the put Sai on the team so in the could have say: team 7 met him and sai didnt have a choice to kill him... i have nothing to do with it... but it fail.... Now that Itachi is dead and he is hokage, he just follow his way to destroy any ennemy of konoha.. Naruto and friend may be not please by that but its a normal and wise decision...



Ushi-U-Saru	Jun 10 2009, 10:31 AM Post #31
chaca chaca chaca chaca chaca chaca cha Posts: 5,791 Group: Member Member #7,658 Joined: April 8, 2007	honoric Jun 10 2009, 10:29 AM Now that Itachi is dead and he is hokage, he just follow his way to destroy any ennemy of konoha.. Except nobody besides Team Hawk and Akatsuki know this, right? Or am I forgetting a revelation?



AkatsukiChaos	Jun 10 2009, 10:38 AM Post #32
So Cute!!! Posts: 67 Group: Member Member #17,801 Joined: June 6, 2009	To me i think when sasuke went to orouchimaru tsunade should have oredered to kill him but it was a pretty bad move to do that cause team hwk can kick danzous a** but watever.Cant wait till it comes out in english in onemanga!!!



~~Natsu~~	Jun 10 2009, 10:51 AM Post #33
Forum Antagonist Posts: 2,959 Group: Missing-Nins Member #13,765 Joined: June 17, 2008	What's up with the random ass return of Tazuna and Inari? Is Kishi trying to copy One Piece with Coby's return. Me likes Danzou now. That's exactly the first order I would give if I was kage of Konoha. Hopefully Taka gets massacred except for God-Mode Sasuke of course who can only be defeated by one person at this point. I would like to see Sakura kill Karin. (The fight for Sasuke's love part 2)



Twilight_Ninja	Jun 10 2009, 10:58 AM Post #34
Jounin Posts: 3,686 Group: Member Member #17,100 Joined: March 1, 2009	Quote: (The fight for Sasuke's love part 2) If only it weren't for certain variables, such as that it's not known how far her feelings go in part 2. :P At any rate, this sounds excellent. It's always nice to see old faces that we haven't seen for a long time. Danzo certainly is making things interesting. Still don't like him, though. :P Well, this will be a chapter to look forward to.



vick86	Jun 10 2009, 11:01 AM Post #35
Jounin Posts: 1,301 Group: Member Member #11,281 Joined: December 22, 2007	It does seem very random but the spoilers aren't exactly clear on what the hell they're doing there. The chapter will probably clear away any confusion... :unsure: Edited by vick86, Jun 10 2009, 11:01 AM.



Twilight_Ninja	Jun 10 2009, 11:02 AM Post #36
Jounin Posts: 3,686 Group: Member Member #17,100 Joined: March 1, 2009	Can't it just be a simple visit? :unsure:



vick86	Jun 10 2009, 11:05 AM Post #37
Jounin Posts: 1,301 Group: Member Member #11,281 Joined: December 22, 2007	Twilight_Ninja Jun 10 2009, 11:02 AM Can't it just be a simple visit? :unsure: You mean a waste of perfectly good ink?



Twilight_Ninja	Jun 10 2009, 11:06 AM Post #38
Jounin Posts: 3,686 Group: Member Member #17,100 Joined: March 1, 2009	vick86 Jun 10 2009, 11:05 AM Twilight_Ninja Jun 10 2009, 11:02 AM Can't it just be a simple visit? :unsure: You mean a waste of perfectly good ink? This is a character driven manga. Reappearances, even for the smallest reasons, can hardly be considered a waste of ink. :huh:



~~Natsu~~	Jun 10 2009, 11:07 AM Post #39
Forum Antagonist Posts: 2,959 Group: Missing-Nins Member #13,765 Joined: June 17, 2008	Twilight_Ninja Jun 10 2009, 11:02 AM Can't it just be a simple visit? :unsure: No! It can't. The spoiler makes it seem that they came to congratulate him on his victory or they heard news of how everyone loves him. Why couldn't they come earlier like when he came back from his 3 years of training. That makes more sense than this being randomly placed into the story even if it is a one chapter cameo.



WTF_No_Jutsu	Jun 10 2009, 11:08 AM Post #40
The Legendary Nonin ... The Highest Level of Nonja, And the next Nokage Posts: 436 Group: Member Member #16,258 Joined: December 19, 2008	Way to go Danzou. Get the village 'weapon' (as he sees it) and Hero (as everyone else sees it) to hate you right off the bat. Well I guess he is not looking for friends but for loyal drones to follow his every order to the tee. This sets some interesting waves in motion as I am sure that if Sasuke attacks the village Naruto will do everything to help him live. The standing order is to Kill Sasuke but can any one in the village that is loyal to the new hokage carry out that mission. It sure does give Kishi a chance to let his boy shine after all. It's all too convenient. Magically his first order is to do something that sets the wheels in motion for a potential failure. I know that he has wanted to kill Sasuke for a long time, more than likely so that his dark secret has one less tattle tale. Edited by WTF_No_Jutsu, Jun 10 2009, 11:10 AM.



vick86	Jun 10 2009, 11:08 AM Post #41
Jounin Posts: 1,301 Group: Member Member #11,281 Joined: December 22, 2007	Twilight_Ninja Jun 10 2009, 11:06 AM vick86 Jun 10 2009, 11:05 AM Twilight_Ninja Jun 10 2009, 11:02 AM Can't it just be a simple visit? :unsure: You mean a waste of perfectly good ink? This is a character driven manga. Reappearances, even for the smallest reasons, can hardly be considered a waste of ink. :huh: Dude what the hell are you smoking this hasn't been a character driven manga for years.



~~Natsu~~	Jun 10 2009, 11:10 AM Post #42
Forum Antagonist Posts: 2,959 Group: Missing-Nins Member #13,765 Joined: June 17, 2008	vick86 Jun 10 2009, 11:08 AM Twilight_Ninja Jun 10 2009, 11:06 AM vick86 Jun 10 2009, 11:05 AM Twilight_Ninja Jun 10 2009, 11:02 AM Can't it just be a simple visit? :unsure: You mean a waste of perfectly good ink? This is a character driven manga. Reappearances, even for the smallest reasons, can hardly be considered a waste of ink. :huh: Dude what the hell are you smoking this hasn't been a character driven manga for years. Agreed to the fullest! That stopped happening when Part 2 started. Or rather really when the Hidan and Kakuzu arc ended.



Twilight_Ninja	Jun 10 2009, 11:11 AM Post #43
Jounin Posts: 3,686 Group: Member Member #17,100 Joined: March 1, 2009	Actually, it always has been. No matter what people try to tell themselves, this was never a battle driven manga. And I don't do drugs and I never will, so I don't appreciate that accusation at all. :angry: Just because I see it as a character driven manga while you don't doesn't call for that. @Ton Ton: Some of the best things are random, what can I say? @WTF_No_Jutsu: Yup. The car has started towards the road of failure. Guess we'll see how it goes. Edited by Twilight_Ninja, Jun 10 2009, 11:12 AM.



BijuHost08	Jun 10 2009, 11:17 AM Post #44
Guess who... Posts: 710 Group: Member Member #15,286 Joined: October 10, 2008	Who knew Kishi would make Danzou hunt his favorite character <_< Woah, Inari's gotten taller!



vick86	Jun 10 2009, 11:18 AM Post #45
Jounin Posts: 1,301 Group: Member Member #11,281 Joined: December 22, 2007	Kishi you sneaky bastard by pitting Sasuke against Danzou you're actually forcing us to root for Sasuke even though most of us hate both.



strawrange	Jun 10 2009, 11:19 AM Post #46
. . . . Posts: 1,458 Group: Member Member #15,119 Joined: October 1, 2008	Ehhh, Inari and Tazuna appearing out of nowhere is just filling up space in this chapter... Unless... Is anyone open to the prospect that Sasuke and another member of team hawk are impersonating Tazuna and Inari via the transformation technique (henge) right now in order to infiltrate Konoha unnoticed?



Twilight_Ninja	Jun 10 2009, 11:21 AM Post #47
Jounin Posts: 3,686 Group: Member Member #17,100 Joined: March 1, 2009	Not unless they have teleportation powers. There's no way they got from Kumo to Konoha in less than an hour when it takes three days to travel between Suna and Konoha. According to the map, Suna is closer.



strawrange	Jun 10 2009, 11:24 AM Post #48
. . . . Posts: 1,458 Group: Member Member #15,119 Joined: October 1, 2008	Did the manga state their exact location, or are we just supposed to assume they are still in Kumo?



Zen	Jun 10 2009, 11:27 AM Post #49
Who indeed? Posts: 450 Group: Member Member #7,930 Joined: May 2, 2007	Truly a scattered chapter.



~~Natsu~~	Jun 10 2009, 11:28 AM Post #50
Forum Antagonist Posts: 2,959 Group: Missing-Nins Member #13,765 Joined: June 17, 2008	Twilight_Ninja Jun 10 2009, 11:11 AM Actually, it always has been. No matter what people try to tell themselves, this was never a battle driven manga. And I don't do drugs and I never will, so I don't appreciate that accusation at all. :angry: Just because I see it as a character driven manga while you don't doesn't call for that. @Ton Ton: Some of the best things are random, what can I say? @WTF_No_Jutsu: Yup. The car has started towards the road of failure. Guess we'll see how it goes. No. It hasn't other wise Konoha 12 or someone not named Naruto or Sasuke would have got their time in the spotlight or would have actually fought someone in 3+ years. The only time at least something close came to that was when Konohamaru incapicatated Hell Realm and all these great fights were about to be set-up for other characters to each kill a Pain body and get some character development only to have Kishi pull the eraser out.



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