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Topic Started: Jun 24 2009, 07:38 AM (23,124 Views)
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Shikamaru
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Jun 24 2009, 07:38 AM
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Opening since we now have confirmed pics and text spoilers out.
Zetsu splits, Gaara returns, and we get a preview of the second art book which is going to feature the Jinchuuriki and their Bijuu. Appears that we get a preview of the Seven Tails Jinchuuriki and her bug Bijuu.
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NARUTO UZUMAKI23
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Jun 24 2009, 07:52 AM
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Seems like Sasuke is made a fool by Tobi when Sasuke tries to attack him recklessly and just goes through him.
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Jun 24 2009, 08:01 AM
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I liked the splitting of Zetsu. The eye on the moon plan better be a success.
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NARUTO UZUMAKI23
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Jun 24 2009, 08:09 AM
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IMO it would be better if Tobi/Madara is not portrayed like Aizen, where every single "setback" is actually part of the plan. I think it is more realistic if Tobi does not expect things like Danzo being Hokage (Although this is actually pretty predictable) and that he actually has to modify his plans when stuff happens like Naruto intervening or Eight tails tricking Sasuke.
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Kartoon-Man
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Jun 24 2009, 08:14 AM
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- Jun 24 2009, 08:09 AM
IMO it would be better if Tobi/Madara is not portrayed like Aizen, where every single "setback" is actually part of the plan.
Hahaha Well spotted. But it's more like things that go wrong seem to be for the better. Like Pain's and Sasuke's failure brought forth the summit. Zetsu mentioned before that he didn't expect so many to die. I don't think Madara also expected it. Hence why he may need new members for the statue jutsu.
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NARUTO UZUMAKI23
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Jun 24 2009, 08:23 AM
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Yeah I guess you are right. I guess Tobi is just an optimist and sees the positive things out of all the negative things that happen: as you pointed out with those two examples.
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Jun 24 2009, 08:37 AM
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Spoiler: click to toggle Status: CONFIRMED SPOILER
by: Yagami1211 NF Cover is Naruto.
While Sasuke is racing to Konoha, Tobi warps in front of him.
stuff happens
Sasuke : Taka leaves the Akatsuki.
Tobi : As I said before, betrayers dies !
Taka : ?!
Tobi : It's really too bad, I had high hopes for you.
Then talks about Killer Bee.
Tobi : You almost got killed by the Eight Tails.
Then when Tobi heard they're going to Konoha ...
He tells them that Konoha no longer exists
And that Tobi's subordinate, Pain, destroyed the village.
Tobi : And that's not all. Thanks to you and Pain, they're going to be a Kage Summit.
Then Zetsu comes.
Tobi : What ? A new Hokage ?
Zetsu : They choosed Danzou.
Tobi : I knew it !
Sasuke : Danzou ...
Tobi : One of thoses elders who blackmailed your brother.
Then we see Naruto ...
Karui/Omoi = We'll avenge our master, spit out intelligence about Sasuke !
Naruto feels sympathy about them because they lost their master.
Naruto : Your master is a Jinchuuriki ? I'm a Jinchuuriki myself and
I'd like to help you save him.
Let's search for him together. We'll deal with Sasuke later, okay ?
Tell everything you know about Akatsuki.
Then they continue talking
Then we get back to Sasuke.
Taka's next move is ... attack the 5 Kage Summit and kill the new Hokage !
Zetsu splits in half ( ??? ) and the white Zetsu leads Sasuke.
Dark Zetsu : I hope it will go well.
Tobi : Yeah ...
Spoilers guys talk about what they think about the story ...
( Nothing interesting really )
Tobi : Nagato died too ... He wasted Rinne Tensei, even though he was supposed to use it for me.
It's because of Uzumaki Naruto ! Sasuke can become greater than Nagato ... I hope we can control Sasuke ...
Tobi : The plan is going like planned.
We must continue the Eyeball plan !
Then we see SUNA and guess what ******* GAARA RETURNS ! He's going to the Kage Summit !
Then we see Kankuro and Gaara tells him he doesn't need him as a bodyguard.
Things seem intresting.
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Samurai Ninja of the North
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Jun 24 2009, 09:00 AM
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I have to agree. Things seem to be heating up but I really wished we couldve seen zetsu do something cooler than split in half.....
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Jun 24 2009, 09:10 AM
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I've got my eye on you, Kishimoto....
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- Jun 24 2009, 08:09 AM
IMO it would be better if Tobi/Madara is not portrayed like Aizen, where every single "setback" is actually part of the plan. I think it is more realistic if Tobi does not expect things like Danzo being Hokage (Although this is actually pretty predictable) and that he actually has to modify his plans when stuff happens like Naruto intervening or Eight tails tricking Sasuke.
Hmm... but your talking about a guy that is over 100 years old and probably in the top 3 shinobi ever (I'm thinking he, Shodai and Rikudou Sennin) . He hasn't been plotting for this long just to be made a fool. He knows the Uchia well. He knows how shinobi work by now. If he was actually Pain's superior, I'm pretty sure he could've caused as much destruction as Nagato's 6 paths did -- and yet he hasn't. He's planning something even more breathtaking. So, I actually like that his plans not only adapt to mishaps, but actually factored them into the promotion of their success. We need that from this guy. After seeing how powerful a fool like Naruto has become at 16, this guy better be the genius of geniuses.
Also, I thought Zetsu splitting in half was pretty bad-ass. I mean, it's not a clone. He's actually 2 shinobi that can share a body or seperate. I would like to see more of his powers as well, Samurai of the North, but he does have some cool ones so far.
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Jun 24 2009, 09:43 AM
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Wait Naruto opts to go after Killer Bee and not Sasuke? What happened Kishi, hit your head? Typical though the one time he chooses not to go after Sasuke will come back to haunt him.
Ps. Yay Lord Gaara is back in town (after exactly 172 chapters)
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Jun 24 2009, 09:47 AM
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This chapter sounds good. Why is it every time they reappear, The Sand trio have new clothes? They're making the other characters look lazy. The Nanabi looks awesome.
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Jun 24 2009, 09:56 AM
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Why so serious, Shichirou?
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Everything on MH (And there is a lot!):
TEXTSpoiler: click to toggle Spoiler: click to toggle English Translation
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Credits: English script by Nightjumper
Verification: confirmed
English script by Nightjumper
SJ cover is of Naruto. Spine is of some lady-frog, me thinks.
Chapter cover is in color
Tobi appears before Taka. Converstaion about Taka leaving Akatsuki, Tobi not being amused, or something, by this in addition to their failure on Hachibi.
They continue talking about Hachibi before moving onto Konoha. Tobi fills Sasuke in on the recent events and such.Tobi then says it's thanks to Sasuke and Pain that the Five Kage Summit is coming. Zetsu appears and tells Tobi that Danzou's Hokage now. Tobi taunts Sasuke with that.
Scene change to Naruto & co.
Omoi and Karui demands that Naruto tells what he knows about Sasuke. Naruto uses his infamous secret unnamed jutsu to convince them to cooperate to rescue Hachibi and stuff.
Back to Sasuke
"IMMA KILL THE HOKAGE AT THE SUMMIT"
Tobi has a psuedo-monologue with Zetsu about his evil evil plans. At the end he says "EXECUTE THE EYE OF THE MOON PLAN"
Scene change to Suna, and Gaara
Gaara is heading to the Summit and tells Kankuro that he ain't need no escort.
End of chapter
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Verification: confirmed
Cover is Naruto.
While Sasuke is racing to Konoha, Tobi warps in front of him.
stuff happens
Sasuke : Taka leaves the Akatsuki.
Tobi : As I said before, betrayers dies !
Taka : ?!
Tobi : It's really too bad, I had high hopes for you.
Then talks about Killer Bee.
Tobi : You almost got killed by the Eight Tails.
Then when Tobi heard they're going to Konoha ...
He tells them that Konoha no longer exists
And that Tobi's subordinate, Pain, destroyed the village.
Tobi : And that's not all. Thanks to you and Pain, they're going to be a Kage Summit.
Then Zetsu comes.
Tobi : What ? A new Hokage ?
Zetsu : They choosed Danzou.
Tobi : I knew it !
Sasuke : Danzou ...
Tobi : One of thoses elders who blackmailed your brother.
Then we see Naruto ...
Karui/Omoi = We'll avenge our master, spit out intelligence about Sasuke !
Naruto feels sympathy about them because they lost their master.
Naruto : Your master is a Jinchuuriki ? I'm a Jinchuuriki myself and
I'd like to help you save him.
Let's search for him together. We'll deal with Sasuke later, okay ?
Tell everything you know about Akatsuki.
Then they continue talking
Then we get back to Sasuke.
Taka's next move is ... attack the 5 Kage Summit and kill the new Hokage !
Zetsu splits in half ( ??? ) and the white Zetsu leads Sasuke.
Dark Zetsu : I hope it will go well.
Tobi : Yeah ...
Spoilers guys talk about what they think about the story ...
( Nothing interesting really )
Tobi : Nagato died too ... He used Rinne Tensei
It's because of Uzumaki Naruto ! Sasuke can become greater than Nagato ... I hope we can control Sasuke ...
Tobi : The plan is going like planned.
We must continue the Eyeball plan !
Then we see SUNA and guess what ******* GAARA RETURNS ! He's going to the Kage Summit !
Then we see Kankuro and Gaara tells him he doesn't need him as a bodyguard.
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Spoiler Translation
Credits: Sho
I'd translate the last part a little differently
んでサスケに戻って
It returns to Sasuke
これから鷹は五影会談の所で火影を殺す！！
Taka will mobilize to kill the Hokage at the 5-Kage summit!
ゼツが半分になって白いほうがサスケ達を会談が行われる場所に案内へ
Zetsu splits into two, and has his white half show Sasuke's group where the talks will take place
黒いゼツ ウマクイッタナ
Dark Zetsu: Masterfully done
トビ ああ
Tobi: I know
くそ長いから省略な
Here's some excerpts of it since it was so freakin' long:
長門が死ぬシナリオもあったのか～
Did you plan for Nagato to die as well?
俺の為に使うはずだった輪廻天生を使われてしまったのは～
The Rinne-tensei, which would have been done for my sake, was unforutunately used for...~
うずまきナルトせいで少しくるったな～
We're even closer thanks to Uzumaki Naruto~
サスケは長門以上になるのか～
Will Sasuke be better than Nagato?~
サスケをうまくコントロー ル～
...control Sasuke well...~
トビ
今まで虎視眈々と進めていたが
月の眼計画をはやく進める！！！！！！
Tobi: I've been biding my time but now we shall quickly commence forward with the "Eye of the Moon" project! Spoiler: click to toggle Another translation.
Quote:
うずまきナルトせいで少しくるったな～
We're even closer thanks to Uzumaki Naruto~
It's more like;
It's Uzumaki Naruto's fault things were messed up a little.
うずまきナルトせいで少しくるったな～ is actually, 狂ったな.
pointed out by AKofTroy Spoiler: click to toggle MORE ACCURATE TRANSLATION
SOURCE: NF
CREDITS: Shounensuki
The cover has Naruto, the spine was wife frog¹
From the colour intro
While Sasuke is on his way to Konoha, Tobi warps before him
After that, various things happen
Sasuke: Taka has left Akatsuki
Tobi: Didn't I tell you treachery meant death...?
Sasuke's group: ??
Tobi: What a shame, and I had such high hopes for you
He then informs them about their failure to capture the Eight-Tails
Tobi: You were tricked by the Eight-Tails
Then when he is informed about them going to Konoha, Tobi tells them
There's no such thing like Konoha any more ~ My subordinate Pain destroyed it ~ etcetera, etcetera
Tobi: That's not all. Thanks to Sasuke's and Pain's violent acts, the Five Kage are going to have a summit
Then Zetsu appears with great timing
Tobi: The next Hokage was chosen?
Zetsu: They decided on Danzou
Tobi: As I thought...
Sasuke: Danzou...
Tobi: A member of the upper echelons who drove your brother into a corner
From there we go to Naruto
Omoi/Karui: Quickly give us information about Sasuke, so we can avenge our master
It seems Naruto is possibly sympathetic because he felt the same once
Your master is a jinchuuriki? I'm a jinchuuriki as well, I want to rescue your master
Let's immediately look for him together, we can deal with Sasuke later, all right?
I'll tell you everything I know about the Akatsuki
The two² are deeply moved as they exchange information idiotically.
Ah~ They talk way too long...
Back to Sasuke
After this, Taka goes to the summit of the Five Kage to kill the Hokage!!
Zetsu splits in half and the white half shows Sasuke and co. the way to the place where the summit is going to be held.
Black Zetsu: That was a success
Tobi: Yeah
Summarised from a damned long scene
The scenario where Nagato dies came true as well, hm ~ He used the Samsara Reincarnation³ that was supposed to be used for my sake
Things became a little screwed up, because of Uzumaki Naruto ~ Sasuke can become more than Nagato ~ We have to control Sasuke well
Tobi:
From here on, we need to watch vigilantly for an opportunity to advance, but
We need to move on quickly with the Eye of the Moon plan!!!!!!!
Meanwhile in Suna
Gaara has returned!!!
He's going to the summit of the Five Kage
Kankurou doesn't need to escort Gaara or something, it seems...
It ends here
This is all I can write, since I haven't slept for 30 hours and I can't think straight... After this are requests...
¹ Possible Shima
² Omoi and Karui
³ Samsara Reincarnation (輪廻天生, Rinne Tensei)
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Tobi : There's no Konoha left !
Sasuke : What do you mean ?
Aloe-chan : I'll explain.
Aloe : Now, Naruto's stronger than Sasuke.
Tobi : This doesn't matter.
I'll add some later. Didn't read all.
Then we see Kakashi
Tobi hits Sasuke ?!
Sasuke slips through ?!
Karin is going to the Kage Summit ? Sounds like a pain in the ass.
LOL Aloe-chan = Zetsu
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Source: NF
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Tobi warps in front of Sasuke :
Tobi : Yo ! Sasuke !
Karin ( I sensed this guy's chakra all of a sudden, what's going on ? )
Suigetsu : Haaa ... Bad Timing !
Sasuke : How did you know where I was ?
Tobi : You may underestimate me, but I have still some nice abilities.
Sasuke : What do you want with me now ? We left Akatsuki, we don't need you anymore.
Tobi : I told you, if you leave Akatsuki, you'll have to die. And you broke our deal as well.
Sasuke : What ?
Tobi : I'm talking about the Eight Tails !
Karin : But we did delivered the Eight Tailed Best to you ?
Tobi : It was a Kawarimi no Jutsu ! In other words : YOU FAIL !
Sasuke, Karin, Juugo, Suigetsu ! BOOM !
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Tobi : The Eight Tails tricked you ! To put it bluntly, I'm disappointed.
Sasuke : ( I saw it with my Sharingan ... It couldn't have the time to do a Bunshin )
Sasuke : I remember the Eight Tails losing a part.
Suigetsu : So what ? It's not our business anymore.
Tobi : No, when you start a business with Akatsuki, you do it until the end. Anyway, don't bother with the Eight Tails ...
I want you to follow another target.
Sasuke : And if I refuse ?
Tobi : I would have to fight you now and here ... You musn't go to Konoha.
Sasuke tries to Chidori Tobi.
Sasuke : Out of my way !
Tobi ?!
Sasuke slips through Tobi
Tobi : You should have headed to Konoha earlier
there's no more Konoha left
Zetsu explains
Tobi : Who's the new Hokage ?
Zetsu : Some Danzou guy.
Tobi : I should have expected this.
Sasuke : Danzou ... Hokage ?
Tobi explains about Pain and the Kage Summit.
Omoi : I'll have you explain all about Sasuke : Fighting Style, Powers, Ninjutsu. About his team, his background ... everything !
Sakura : You're lying ! Sasuke-kun can't be in Akatsuki !
Omoi : Hey, girly ! Shut your goddam trap ! What are you to Sasuke ?
She uses her sword !
Sakura cries ( LOL )
A saddened Naruto look at Sakura. Spoiler: click to toggle karui is the one that says that sakura is annoying and what is she to sasuke
Pics Trans by Yagami1211
Karui : What the f*** are you crying about ? I'm the one who should be crying.
Master Killer Bee and Master Yugito will never return. If you have the time to cry, the spits everything you know about Sasuke !
Sai enters.
Sai : You don't have to take it like that. You can help us finding him ... You'll have your whereabouts.
Naruto remembers Jiraiya
Naruto : This master of yours, he's a Jinchuuriki ?
Team Could is surprised !
Naruto : I'm one as well. Akatsuki wants the Jinchuuriki.
Team Could is surprised again !
Karui : Cool story, blond guy. Then come with us, you'll tell us about Sasuke.
Naruto : Leave it to me, Sakura-chan !
Karui : Your name ?
Naruto : Uzumaki Naruto
Karui : Naruto !?
Suigetsu : So this Naruto guy took on Pain himself ?
Zetsu : Yes. It seems he became awesomely powerful. It's possible that he's stronger than Sasuke.
Sasuke : I don't care about that. The problem is the Kage Summit !
Is it in Konoha ? Tell us where is it !
We, Taka, are going to the Kage Summit to take the head of the new Hokage !
Tobi : It's ok with me.
Zetsu splits in half
the white one leads Sasuke
Sasuke has doubts, but he follows him anyway.
Sasuke : We have to scout the area first. If somethings fishy comes up -> Amaterasu ! There's something I want to test.
Black Zetsu ( To Madara ) : Wonderfully done.
Tobi : Well ... Nagato wasted the Rinne Tensei instead of keeping it for me just in case. I didn't think he could betray us.
Sasuke can become even better ... But there's no point if we can't control him.
Gedou Mato can't be linked now
We have to see how things are progressing.
Black zetsu : You prepared something in case Nagato would die ?
Tobi : Just in case. We have been driven to a corner, thanks to Uzumaki Naruto ... Our plans will have to wait.
Black Zetsu : What are we going to do ? Are we moving ?
Tobi : I'm done with looking only. We're going with the Eye of the moon plan.
Then we see Suna.
Kankuro seems to wait for a new puppet.
Ohana clarifying something:
About Naruto, Sasuke doesn't seems to be interested in him.
Naruto : Instead of Sasuke, I think we should first looking for that master of yours."
Omoi and Karui are surprised.
Naruto : I'm going to help you to find him. Tell me about Akatsuki.
Karui : Blond guy ...
Naruto :
Gaara : Well then, we're going !
Kankuro : I don't need to be Gaara's bodyguard !
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Typical Kishi:
Sakura crying for her Sasuke-kun, who in turn is dumb enough to run through a guy who was born before konoha, and who could make mince meat of him, with a chidori...Oh and Team Samui, too, will "believe in a child" (whose sig was that?)...
The really cool part was Kankuro telling he isn't Gaara's bodyguard, and Zetsu splitting up in half (Okey that was creepy)
The two-page spread seems to imply this rather curious relationship:
Sakura-Kamui,
Naruto-Omoi, and....
Kakashi-Samui
Hinting something, Kishi?
PS. I stand by my Nanabi comment.
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Jun 24 2009, 10:09 AM
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rofl!! Sakura!! xD
Sakura starts the denial about Sasuke joining Akat
Then Karui literally tells her to stfu
Than Sakura starts crying like a bitch. xD
The 7th-tails Jinchuruki seems like it's a girl and a hot one at that. :wub:
Zetsu says that Naruto may be stronger than Sasuke considering he beated Pain. But we know Naruto had lots of help in it so it could be the other way round. Since Zetsu still said he may be stronger than that means that even though he did manage to beat Pain with no help atall it's still possible hes weaker than Sasuke.
Great chapter! Even though i wonder how all of that will fit in Kishi's usual 19-pages.
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Jun 24 2009, 10:09 AM
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Sasuke... you so funny. Okay, maybe tonight
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- Jun 24 2009, 09:43 AM
Wait Naruto opts to go after Killer Bee and not Sasuke? What happened Kishi, hit your head? Typical though the one time he chooses not to go after Sasuke will come back to haunt him.
Ps. Yay Lord Gaara is back in town (after exactly 172 chapters)
The village still have Kakashi. Hope Kishimoto don't make a fool of him this time.
Well if this spoiler is correct, how Tobi didn't know Sasuke was going to Kohona? Thought Sasuke told him when he was tied up.
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Jun 24 2009, 10:10 AM
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH I see the Shichibi in one of those spoiler pic's!!!!!!!!
They need a whole arc just explain Zetsu.
And attack the 5 Kage summit is suicide. 5 Kage level ninja surrounded by a bunch of Jounin. Suicide.
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Jun 24 2009, 10:16 AM
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Sasuke... you so funny. Okay, maybe tonight
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For Sasuke to succeed in killing the Hokage. Kishimoto is going to make a FOOL of allot of people. including Kakashi, Neji, Gaara, the other Hokages, there body guards, anbu, root.........list goes on.
this is what you call mission impossible LOL
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Jun 24 2009, 10:19 AM
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- Jun 24 2009, 10:09 AM
- vick86
- Jun 24 2009, 09:43 AM
Wait Naruto opts to go after Killer Bee and not Sasuke? What happened Kishi, hit your head? Typical though the one time he chooses not to go after Sasuke will come back to haunt him.
Ps. Yay Lord Gaara is back in town (after exactly 172 chapters)
The village still have Kakashi. Hope Kishimoto don't make a fool of him this time. Well if this spoiler is correct, how Tobi didn't know Sasuke was going to Kohona? Thought Sasuke told him when he was tied up.
Probably because Sasuke doesn't trust Madara, So he didn't inform him of his plans. Or it could have been that the Hachibi mission was the only one Sasuke plan to do.
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Jun 24 2009, 10:20 AM
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- Jun 24 2009, 09:43 AM
Wait Naruto opts to go after Killer Bee and not Sasuke? What happened Kishi, hit your head? Typical though the one time he chooses not to go after Sasuke will come back to haunt him.
Ps. Yay Lord Gaara is back in town (after exactly 172 chapters)
The village still have Kakashi. Hope Kishimoto don't make a fool of him this time.
Why not? Sasuke kicking Kakashi's butt while Naruto is away, makes perfect sense to me but this isn't the prediction thread. Loving the Kumo-Konoha colour spread. Looks like we'll be stuck with this lot for a while and that's fine with me.
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Jun 24 2009, 10:25 AM
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If Pain succeded in destroying Konoha before Naruto came and Tobi and Zetsu consider Sasuke around Pain's level i don't see why he can't.
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Jun 24 2009, 10:29 AM
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Sasuke... you so funny. Okay, maybe tonight
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If Pain succeded in destroying Konoha before Naruto came and Tobi and Zetsu consider Sasuke around Pain's level i don't see why he can't.
Sorry but you can't compare Susake to Pain. Sasue don't have 5 s-rank ninjas beside him. And from the spoiler Madara said he have the potential, and more than likely he's talking with EMS. But i still don't see Sasuke been more powerful than Nagato. Im not going to get into it but seriously NO.
@ryukitsune im almost positive Sasuke said out loud he's going to Konoha.
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Jun 24 2009, 10:37 AM
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im almost positive Sasuke said out loud he's going to Konoha.
Sasuke did say that he was gonna destroy Konoha to Madara before, But he didn't inform Madara that they were leaving Akatsuki or so soon.
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Jun 24 2009, 10:37 AM
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If Pain succeded in destroying Konoha before Naruto came and Tobi and Zetsu consider Sasuke around Pain's level i don't see why he can't.
Sorry but you can't compare Susake to Pain. Sasue don't have 5 s-rank ninjas beside him. And from the spoiler Madara said he have the potential, and more than likely he's talking with EMS. But i still don't see Sasuke been more powerful than Nagato. Im not going to get into it but seriously NO. @ryukitsune im almost positive Sasuke said out loud he's going to Konoha.
Well, after Naruto managed to beat Pain, which for what Akatsuki knows he did it alone with no help, Zetsu said that Naruto may be stronger than Sasuke.
Thats if he doesn't know he had tons of help, but since they think he had none and that he said may indicates that even though Naruto beated Pain with no help atall it's still not certain that he's stronger than Sasuke which means Sasuke is around Pains level and like Madara said if he gets EMS he would completely surpass Pain.
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Jun 24 2009, 10:38 AM
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At this point in time, Sasuke has become nothing more than a rampaging fool. Considering the character depth Itachi had, this is disappointing. Sasuke seems like a clone of Nagato.
Pretty convenient setup Kishi has made for Naruto to be out of the village when Sasuke and his group attack the summit.
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Jun 24 2009, 10:39 AM
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- Jun 24 2009, 10:38 AM
At this point in time, Sasuke has become nothing more than a rampaging fool. Considering the character depth Itachi had, this is disappointing. Sasuke seems like a clone of Nagato.
Pretty convenient setup Kishi has made for Naruto to be out of the village when Sasuke and his group attack the summit.
I don't think it was gonna be at Konoha, Otherwise Sasuke and co wouldn't have to follow Zetsu to the Summit.
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Jun 24 2009, 10:49 AM
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So Sakura is crying, Naruto with just one sentence has changed their minds like that, Gaara is back in the picture for the summit (aaaaand because Kishi didn't have the nads to give him a good and proper death way back when) and Sasuke gets his worf moment.
That basically the gist of what's going on here?
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