Chapter 453 Discussion

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Chapter 453 Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 24 2009, 07:38 AM (23,123 Views)
vick86	Jun 24 2009, 10:54 AM Post #26
Jounin Posts: 1,301 Group: Member Member #11,281 Joined: December 22, 2007	Quote: Gaara is back in the picture for the summit (aaand because Kishi didn't have the nads to give him a good and proper death way back when) Kishi: Hey guys guess what Gaara lives. Fans: Yay Kishi (thinking): Phew.. Now I can leave him out for 3 1/2 years. 172 chapters without that Gaara bloke sounds about right.. Fans: %#$%@%#$%@#



Rising Burst	Jun 24 2009, 10:55 AM Post #27
Ninja Academy Student Posts: 247 Group: Member Member #16,351 Joined: December 26, 2008	The New Yellow Flash Jun 24 2009, 10:49 AM So Sakura is crying, Naruto with just one sentence has changed their minds like that, Gaara is back in the picture for the summit (aaaaand because Kishi didn't have the nads to give him a good and proper death way back when) and Sasuke gets his worf moment. That basically the gist of what's going on here? And - Karui tells Sakura to Stfu - Zetsu splits in two - Madara says Sasuke will surpass Pain - Sasuke tests his "new power" - Kankuro is wearing Temari's old clothes - Sai comes to defend Sakura - 7th Bijuu revealed - 7th Jinchruki is hot - Samui is blonde, Karui is a red head and Omoi is blonde too - Sasuke going to solo the 5 ******* kages



shchs16	Jun 24 2009, 10:56 AM Post #28
Ninja Academy Student Posts: 40 Group: Member Member #6,815 Joined: February 20, 2007	Well if killer bee could take sasuke on and make him look foolish even with help from taka, and sasuke is supposed to be as good as Pain. That would make killer bee at a level below madara and above naruto/sasuke/Pain/jaraiya, and etc. I dont think thats right, the whole balance of power has gotten way off. Plus if kisame was weaker than itachi then he should not stand a chance against killer bee. Unless itachi was truly stronger than Pain and only weaker than madara because of ems. That would make kisame on the level of killer bee and stronger than almost everyone. kishi has made things too confusing. Edited by shchs16, Jun 24 2009, 10:59 AM.



Sage of Thunder	Jun 24 2009, 10:58 AM Post #29
Ninja Academy Student Posts: 133 Group: Member Member #15,276 Joined: October 10, 2008	Finally Finally zetsu has done something wooooo hoooo also I sure hope the cloud and naruto find killerbee would be nice for naruto to meet someone who has mastered their demon half



knight	Jun 24 2009, 10:59 AM Post #30
Chuunin Posts: 560 Group: Member Member #10,330 Joined: October 5, 2007	I don't think it says Sasuke is as strong as Pain. I think it says that he can become as strong and eventually surpass Pain.



Rising Burst	Jun 24 2009, 11:00 AM Post #31
Ninja Academy Student Posts: 247 Group: Member Member #16,351 Joined: December 26, 2008	shchs16 Jun 24 2009, 10:56 AM well if killer bee could take sasuke on and make him look foolish even with help from taka, and sasuke is supposed to be as good as Pain. That would make killer bee at a level below madara and above naruto/sasuke/Pain/jaraiya, and etc. I dont think thats right the whole balance of power has gotten way off. Plus if kisame was weaker than itachi then he should not stand a chance against killer bee, unless itachi was truly stronger than Pain and only weaker than madara because of ems. That would make kisame on the level of killer bee and stronger than almost. kishi has made things too confusing. Well if i got it right it's supposed to be like this. Madara > EMS Sasuke > Pain > Itachi > Orochimaru >/=/< Naruto >/=/< Sasuke >/=/< Jiraiya > Kisame Edited by Rising Burst, Jun 24 2009, 11:01 AM.



ryukitsune	Jun 24 2009, 11:02 AM Post #32
Master of Logical Coolness Posts: 3,715 Group: Member Member #3,085 Joined: June 23, 2006	I still don't understand why they think Kirabi is still alive. As far as they know, Akatsuki took him and extracted him already. Unless it's another one of those random faith things.



kasanza30	Jun 24 2009, 11:04 AM Post #33
I've got my eye on you, Kishimoto.... Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,273 Joined: July 18, 2008	Rising Burst Jun 24 2009, 10:55 AM The New Yellow Flash Jun 24 2009, 10:49 AM So Sakura is crying, Naruto with just one sentence has changed their minds like that, Gaara is back in the picture for the summit (aaaaand because Kishi didn't have the nads to give him a good and proper death way back when) and Sasuke gets his worf moment. That basically the gist of what's going on here? And - Karui tells Sakura to Stfu - Zetsu splits in two - Madara says Sasuke will surpass Pain - Sasuke tests his "new power" - Kankuro is wearing Temari's old clothes - Sai comes to defend Sakura - 7th Bijuu revealed - 7th Jinchruki is hot - Samui is blonde, Karui is a red head and Omoi is blonde too - Sasuke going to solo the 5 ***** kages Hot damn! This is starting to get exciting. I wonder if Madara will be one of the Kages or if Kisame was speaking to him as some talk show host speak to former presidents by still refering to them as such. Will be interesting if Sasuke has no idea until he sees him there or if Madara wears some sort of disguise. Right about now, whether you like where the manga has been going, things are starting to heat up! And I knew Sakura was still a big fangirl of Sasuke's. I'm glad she got reprimanded. @Rising Burst: It's one thing to subdue someone and another to straight out try and kill them. I think Killer Bee and Sasuke were about on the same level. Same goes for Pain being stronger than Naruto and Sasuke. Pain was there taking on a whole Ninja village to try and subdue Naruto. If he had gone head to head with Pumpkin-boi to the death, I'm sure he would've won. Edited by kasanza30**, Jun 24 2009, 11:08 AM.



vick86	Jun 24 2009, 11:05 AM Post #34
Jounin Posts: 1,301 Group: Member Member #11,281 Joined: December 22, 2007	ryukitsune Jun 24 2009, 11:02 AM I still don't understand why they think Kirabi is still alive. As far as they know, Akatsuki took him and extracted him already. Unless it's another one of those random faith things. I don't get it either. Kumo is way further off from Konoha than Suna. It's already been the better part of a week since he got taken and they'd need at least another better part of a week to get back there add to that they don't have any leads.



The New Yellow Flash	Jun 24 2009, 11:05 AM Post #35
Locked, cocked, ready to rock Posts: 1,004 Group: Member Member #13,864 Joined: June 23, 2008	Oh, yeah, interesting point: the people in the know about jinchuuriki and/or Akatsuki basically know Akatsuki's M.O. concerning the jinchuuriki, namely find them, grab 'em, suck out the bijuu, thereby killing the host, and run, right? So besides the author forgetting that the characters are not omniscient as he is, how would they know to assume that he's even alive at this point after all this time to go find him? Or are they being even more hopelessly optomistic than usual? Damn, y'all type fast (aka ryukitsune beat me to it)



ToadSage44	Jun 24 2009, 11:05 AM Post #36
A sword that turns into a hammer, if thats not irony I don't know what is... Posts: 300 Group: Member Member #11,203 Joined: December 18, 2007	Anyone else notice suigetsu got his sword back?



the kraken	Jun 24 2009, 11:05 AM Post #37
Chuunin Posts: 944 Group: Member Member #11,463 Joined: January 2, 2008	the seven tails looks like a mix of a rhinocerous beetle and a hornet with seven wings. it will be interesting to see how tobi, zetsu and team hawk take on the other 4 kages and their body guards. i could see tobi taking on 2 kages at once. i mean he was giving orders to pain, a man who was able to take on an entire village. Edited by the kraken, Jun 24 2009, 11:06 AM.



Sage of Thunder	Jun 24 2009, 11:06 AM Post #38
Ninja Academy Student Posts: 133 Group: Member Member #15,276 Joined: October 10, 2008	ryukitsune Jun 24 2009, 11:02 AM I still don't understand why they think Kirabi is still alive. As far as they know, Akatsuki took him and extracted him already. Unless it's another one of those random faith things. From what I've seen killerbee do he is filed under the don't count him dead until you see a body kinda guy and I'm sure his students feel the same way



Pervy Sennin	Jun 24 2009, 11:06 AM Post #39
Genin Posts: 427 Group: Site Contributor Member #16,752 Joined: January 27, 2009	I like seeing pics of 7th Jinchruki, but I don't like the Shichibi turn out to be, a bug.



knight	Jun 24 2009, 11:07 AM Post #40
Chuunin Posts: 560 Group: Member Member #10,330 Joined: October 5, 2007	Didn't Itachi mention that Madara is a shadow of his former self and looking to restore his former power? If that is the case, Madara is more like Danzo, brains but not brawns. At least not yet. Of course, this is just speculation.



Lunacy Divine	Jun 24 2009, 11:10 AM Post #41
Team Green Posts: 4,052 Group: Global Moderators Member #6,640 Joined: February 12, 2007	ToadSage44 Jun 24 2009, 11:05 AM Anyone else notice suigetsu got his sword back? Welcome to four weeks ago.



vick86	Jun 24 2009, 11:10 AM Post #42
Jounin Posts: 1,301 Group: Member Member #11,281 Joined: December 22, 2007	Sage of Thunder Jun 24 2009, 11:06 AM ryukitsune Jun 24 2009, 11:02 AM I still don't understand why they think Kirabi is still alive. As far as they know, Akatsuki took him and extracted him already. Unless it's another one of those random faith things. From what I've seen killerbee do he is filed under the don't count him dead until you see a body kinda guy and I'm sure his students feel the same way Actually Kumo doesn't know anything about what happens to captured jinchuriki. Naruto is just being an idiot again with his whole "saving people thing" (Oh my god he is Harry Potter) Edited by vick86, Jun 24 2009, 11:11 AM.



Twilight_Ninja	Jun 24 2009, 11:11 AM Post #43
Jounin Posts: 3,686 Group: Member Member #17,100 Joined: March 1, 2009	kasanza30 Jun 24 2009, 11:04 AM And I knew Sakura was still a big fangirl of Sasuke's. I'm glad she got reprimanded. I fail to see any indication whatsoever that Sakura is still a fangirl. She could easily be crying for someone she considers a dear friend, just as Naruto has done the same during the Rescue Gaara and Sasuke and Sai Arcs.



kasanza30	Jun 24 2009, 11:12 AM Post #44
I've got my eye on you, Kishimoto.... Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,273 Joined: July 18, 2008	knight Jun 24 2009, 11:07 AM Didn't Itachi mention that Madara is a shadow of his former self and looking to restore his former power? If that is the case, Madara is more like Danzo, brains but not brawns. At least not yet. Of course, this is just speculation. Except Madara can barely be touched (and even when he is, he always cancels it out or escapes). That alone seem more powerful than anyone else, from my perspective anyhow. @Twilight: as if Naruto wasn't a fanboi of Gaara's?



Twilight_Ninja	Jun 24 2009, 11:17 AM Post #45
Jounin Posts: 3,686 Group: Member Member #17,100 Joined: March 1, 2009	No, he wasn't. I hate it when feelings of deep friendship and camaderie are blown immensely out of proportion into something they're not, but whatever. My reaction to the Shichibi being an insect: O.o



knight	Jun 24 2009, 11:19 AM Post #46
Chuunin Posts: 560 Group: Member Member #10,330 Joined: October 5, 2007	kasanza30 Jun 24 2009, 11:12 AM knight Jun 24 2009, 11:07 AM Didn't Itachi mention that Madara is a shadow of his former self and looking to restore his former power? If that is the case, Madara is more like Danzo, brains but not brawns. At least not yet. Of course, this is just speculation. Except Madara can barely be touched (and even when he is, he always cancels it out or escapes). That alone seem more powerful than anyone else, from my perspective anyhow. @Twilight: as if Naruto wasn't a fanboi of Gaara's? If he had these powers when he fought the First Hokage, I wonder how he was defeated. I hope Kishi shows the full battle someday.



kasanza30	Jun 24 2009, 11:20 AM Post #47
I've got my eye on you, Kishimoto.... Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,273 Joined: July 18, 2008	Twilight_Ninja Jun 24 2009, 11:17 AM No, he wasn't. I hate it when feelings of deep friendship and camaderie are blown immensely out of proportion, but whatever. Oh come on. He loves Sasuke because he wants to be like him and thinks of him as a brother and he loves Gaara because they are the same, both were meant to be monsters but both have become Heroes. Plus, Gaara has already accomplished the goal Naruto so desires, he was pumpin' Gaara up to Iruka like he was a fangirl. Infact, I would wager that he loves Sasuke more than anyone else in his whole wide world. It's a non-sexual crush so he may not be a fangirl, but he most assuredly is a fanboi. Edited by kasanza30, Jun 24 2009, 11:21 AM.



vick86	Jun 24 2009, 11:20 AM Post #48
Jounin Posts: 1,301 Group: Member Member #11,281 Joined: December 22, 2007	Twilight_Ninja Jun 24 2009, 11:17 AM No, he wasn't. I hate it when feelings of deep friendship and camaderie are blown immensely out of proportion, but whatever. Join the club mate. I wonder if Kishi ever had any friends 'cause he obviously doesn't get it. Friendship is just a bunch a crap with a nice wrapper around it, once it unwraps it stinks.



Twilight_Ninja	Jun 24 2009, 11:22 AM Post #49
Jounin Posts: 3,686 Group: Member Member #17,100 Joined: March 1, 2009	Actually, I meant when some fans make deep friendship between characters out to be something it's not, especially in Naruto's case. And people are even guilty of the same regarding Sakura. And vick, this is Shonen. Power of Friendship is gonna be present. ;) Not to mention it is a nice concept in real life. On a spoiler comment, glad Naruto put retrieving Sasuke on the backseat to saving a fellow Jinchuuriki.



vick86	Jun 24 2009, 11:29 AM Post #50
Jounin Posts: 1,301 Group: Member Member #11,281 Joined: December 22, 2007	Dude I know it's shonen but some of these shonen heroes never seem to get the message that friendship is not unconditional. Once my friend always my friend is a stupid ideal that holds no ground even in fiction. It's certainly goes against what I feel power of friendship should be about. The whole turning rivals into friends ideal found in many shonen is a better reflection of the power of friendship card IMHO.



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