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Who, What, When, Why And How?; Have a simple quick question?
Topic Started: Apr 26 2006, 01:57 PM (78,948 Views)
illogicalman21
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Gaara292
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I have a quick question regarding the ice element. Is it possible to have that element without a bloodline? and even if you need a bloodline does it have to be haku's?
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Serpentkid
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It has to be Haku's when using the ice element. If you're thinking of making an RP character using the ice element then stop right there. Haku's clan was whiped out as far as we know, so he was the last person that could use ice, and now that he's dead, no one can.

And yes, as far as we know it has to be a bloodline. Even a ninja that has copied 1000 jutsu does not know ice-based jutsu (do not refer to movie 1) so its safe to assume its bloodline only.
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Gaara292
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One more quick question. Is hatake sakumo proven dead or does everyone just assume he is dead?
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He is dead (Kakashi witnessed him killing himself).
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And yes, as far as we know it has to be a bloodline. Even a ninja that has copied 1000 jutsu does not know ice-based jutsu (do not refer to movie 1) so its safe to assume its bloodline only.

That's not entirely true. Creating ice the way Haku does is a bloodline ability, but we've had no rules against someone just using ice the way a person would use a Doton or Suiton. The problem is where would the ice come from though.
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id say its similar to when the 3rd used doton jutsu's, earth was summoned in the form of oil. though when jirobou (sp) from the sound 4 used doton jutsus, he used actual rock.
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Oil? That was mud. Everyone else uses the actual ground they're on.
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you sure? the bullets from the dragon head i thought were oil cause they caught on fire from the 3rd katon.

either way same result. mud-water rock-ice
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That was mud. Oil is black... Mud is brown. and it clearly showed that the dragon was brown so it's mud.
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just wondering, does anyone know how old itachi was when he murdered his clan?
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He was 13.
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Kanzen Shinkiro
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Aug 12 2007, 08:50 PM
He was 13.

I believe that is incorrect. The age was never given. Itachi was 13 when he became ANBU squad leader.
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He was 13. Sasuke was 7 when it happened, Itachi is 6 years older than Sasuke, so he was 13.
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Aug 12 2007, 10:20 PM
He was 13. Sasuke was 7 when it happened, Itachi is 6 years older than Sasuke, so he was 13.

Nowhere was it ever said explicitly how old Itachi was at the time of the massacre. Shisui had been told to keep an eye on Itachi within six months after Itachi's induction into ANBU. Therefore, Itachi could have been anywhere between thirteen and fourteen.

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well.... its true that he's 6 years older.....


but its also true that at a very young age, itachi already did what a high jounin could do.... unlock the sharingan, become anbu, etc.

so i could somehow agree that at only 13 he killed his clan.
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I believe he was 13 also but when you think of it, it seems kind of weird seeing as how much taller and mature looking itachi was at that age when sasuke was 13.
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Aug 13 2007, 04:33 AM
well.... its true that he's 6 years older.....


but its also true that at a very young age, itachi already did what a high jounin could do.... unlock the sharingan, become anbu, etc.

so i could somehow agree that at only 13 he killed his clan.

I thought Kakashi said Itachi become an ANBU squad leader at age 18. That was when Kisame and Itachi came into the village B4 time skip.
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No it was 13, Itachi was around about 18 at the time he returned to Konoha.
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Aug 13 2007, 12:07 PM
No it was 13, Itachi was around about 18 at the time he returned to Konoha.

he seamed much older than that, both times.
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I don't really think he seemed much older, Itachi looks quite young IMO. Anyhow, those are the facts.
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sanegaara
Aug 13 2007, 12:14 PM
I don't really think he semmed much older, Itachi looks quite young IMO. Anyhow, those are the facts.

yeah your right. I just went back and checked, it was 13 when he became ANBU squad leader.
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Aug 13 2007, 02:14 PM
I don't really think he seemed much older, Itachi looks quite young IMO. Anyhow, those are the facts.

The only fact is that Itachi was thirteen when he became ANBU squad leader, and not when he murdered his entire clan. His age then was never made clear. He could have been anywhere between thirteen and fourteen years old. Saying he was exactly thirteen is speculation at best.
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Aug 13 2007, 07:44 PM
The only fact is that Itachi was thirteen when he became ANBU squad leader, and not when he murdered his entire clan. His age then was never made clear. He could have been anywhere between thirteen and fourteen years old. Saying he was exactly thirteen is speculation at best.

...what? Who said he was 13 when he supposedly massacred his clan? The only facts I was referring to is the age at which he became ANBU squad leader and how old he was when he returned to Konoha.
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Aug 13 2007, 02:52 PM
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Aug 13 2007, 07:44 PM
The only fact is that Itachi was thirteen when he became ANBU squad leader, and not when he murdered his entire clan. His age then was never made clear. He could have been anywhere between thirteen and fourteen years old. Saying he was exactly thirteen is speculation at best.

...what? Who said he was 13 when he supposedly massacred his clan? The only facts I was referring to is the age at which he became ANBU squad leader and how old he was when he returned to Konoha.

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. What I was getting at, however, is the misconception Uchiha Itachi was thirteen when the Uchiha massacre took place. His age then was never given. I apologize for the misconception.
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