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| Five Village Alliance; will it happen?what will come out of it? | |
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| Topic Started: Jul 31 2009, 09:10 PM (2,631 Views) | |
| Templar | Jul 31 2009, 09:10 PM Post #1 |
This is what makes ninja obsolete
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This topic is about the latest chapter introduction to a alliance between the villages to deal with the Ataksuki threat. It was mentioned in the chapter that one person should command their forces so they are truly unified in chapter they suggested Danzou but what I want is people give who they think out of the ninja who would best be fitted to command these forces and why (this includes naruto and other ninja belonging to each village) Also I would like to hear your thoughts on who you believe would join this alliance and who would decline if anyone or if one is going to happen at all considering sasuke is probably going interrupt this before any arrangements are made Finally I would like to know your thoughts on the situation after this crisis is solved what will become of the alliance after Ataksuki is gone? |
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| Elyon | Jul 31 2009, 09:18 PM Post #2 |
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Danzou is the best. Konoha has the last remaining thing that Akatsuki wants, and Danzou's experienced enough to know what to do, when to do it, and how to do it without being emotionally attached to the situation. Gaara and the Raikage both have personal attachments to Akatsuki, which means they can allow their emotions to get in the way. Aside from that, Gaara is too inexperienced to really lead multiple forces at once and coherently coordinate them. The Mizukage and Tsuchikage...well, I don't know much about them. The Mizukage may have her own faults, but the Tsuchikage is far too old and attached to old ways to be allowed to use the forces. |
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| ryukitsune | Jul 31 2009, 09:24 PM Post #3 |
Master of Logical Coolness
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I'm supporting Danzo being the head of the alliance, Since he's one of the few ninjas to show the ability to strategically lead and to do what is necessary for his goal. As for what will happen once Akatsuki is finished, It depends on how the thing with Danzo plays out. I can't see any complications with the alliance once Danzo and Sasuke deal with each other and Danzo's actions are revealed. But if Akatsuki is dealt with before Danzo's actions are revealed, Then I would guess that it's control of the alliance that lead to Danzo's downfall. |
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| Zetsu4Real | Jul 31 2009, 09:25 PM Post #4 |
If I go crazy then will you still call me superman!?
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He caused all this crap so I bet he does know what to do, when to do it and how to do it. |
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| Ushi-U-Saru | Jul 31 2009, 09:27 PM Post #5 |
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I wasn't aware that he caused Akatsuki. |
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| Elyon | Jul 31 2009, 09:27 PM Post #6 |
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Caused what? Caused the 8tails to be taken? Caused Sasuke to join the Akatsuki and go after Killer Bee? Caused The Raikage to get upset and call a meeting? |
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| Zetsu4Real | Jul 31 2009, 09:29 PM Post #7 |
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If I go crazy then will you still call me superman!?
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Yep, by helping with Itachi's mission orders in the past. |
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| Elyon | Jul 31 2009, 09:31 PM Post #8 |
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That didn't cause Sasuke to join Akatsuki. That just caused him to have horrible trauma. Madara caused him to join Akatsuki. |
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| Ushi-U-Saru | Jul 31 2009, 09:32 PM Post #9 |
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Yep, it was all Danzou. It had nothing to do with the Uchiha's coup, and certainly Danzou was the only one behind the mission. Hiruzen, the elders, and Itachi's hands are all clean. |
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| Zetsu4Real | Jul 31 2009, 09:35 PM Post #10 |
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If I go crazy then will you still call me superman!?
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Which helped lead to the events, Madara just used what Danzou created to influence Sasuke. Its sort of like me moving in on my best friends girl when he broke up with her, shes very vulnerable :ph43r:
Naruto has shown us that 1 person can make a difference in the shinobi world, Danzou could have made a better plan than just to kill EVERY Uchiha instead of just the combat enabled ones. Edited by Zetsu4Real, Jul 31 2009, 09:36 PM.
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| Ushi-U-Saru | Jul 31 2009, 09:39 PM Post #11 |
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chaca chaca chaca chaca chaca chaca cha
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That doesn't wash the other participants' hands clean. |
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| ryukitsune | Jul 31 2009, 09:41 PM Post #12 |
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If anything, Danzo should have broke his word and killed Itachi and Sasuke. Then there wouldn't have been any problems. |
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| orochimarupain | Jul 31 2009, 09:50 PM Post #13 |
Ninja Academy Student
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personally i dont like the idea of donzou leading the allience because, one hes up to some thing and two the old farts as i like to call them are well self centered. not to be mean but thats how i feel. although i dont know who is good enough, i feel things will go bad if he does. |
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| PlasmaNin | Jul 31 2009, 09:51 PM Post #14 |
HAPPYNESS ...
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Theoretically, Danzou would be the most logical choice, of course, Danzou is hiding something, and two of the kages already don't like him. If he manages to get elected though, Sasuke will se that as the moment to strike him down, guess we'll have to wait to see how this goes. Though, it kinda bugs how they're considering an actual leader for an alliance, couldn't they just be equally in charge? Of course, democracy isn't how things are run in this world. I hope they give him some limits. |
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| Twilight_Ninja | Jul 31 2009, 09:51 PM Post #15 |
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I could see that for Sasuke, but I very highly doubt the entire ROOT would be able to do anything against Itachi. Itachi threatened Danzo, not the other way around. But yeah, on the topic, I think it'd be very good for the story for Danzo to lead the alliance until his shady actions are exposed. |
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| Salamanca | Jul 31 2009, 09:53 PM Post #16 |
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Wel that old Fart as you called it. Is very expiriance and Although He is up to no good. He could be threat to madara's Plan. I think IMO the leader should be Rai the reason is he looks powerful and has good leadership skills |
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| Lunacy Divine | Jul 31 2009, 09:54 PM Post #17 |
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You are being ridiculous. The only one who really caused Sasuke to ally himself with the Akatsuki organization is Sasuke. Danzou isn't responsible for his decisions. |
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| ryukitsune | Jul 31 2009, 10:16 PM Post #18 |
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Well the reason for the one leader is that so that the Kages don't go giving conflicting orders. One person giving orders is much better then a bunch a people fighting over which orders to give. |
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| the kraken | Jul 31 2009, 10:21 PM Post #19 |
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if they do decide to form an alliance akatsuki is gonna be in a pretty tight spot. they'll probably form some kind of specialized assassin squad made from the top 5 ninja in each village or something. and if they don't do that they will probably attack with hundreds of unnamed ninja who will all get defeated by sasuke and madara. i'm hoping for the specialized assassin squads. Edited by the kraken, Jul 31 2009, 10:23 PM.
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| JediKnight | Jul 31 2009, 11:26 PM Post #20 |
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Sasuke choose to join Akatsuki on his own. Lets not blame everything on the future ruler of the world Danzou the Great. By the way I support Danzou 110%. Now he is a true ninja, but needs to watch out for the Raikage. Raikage is on to him. |
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| GokakyuNoJutsu | Jul 31 2009, 11:49 PM Post #21 |
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Danzo efficiently commanded his Root force for years if not decades, so there's no doubt in my mind that Danzo has the necessary leadership qualities to effectively lead the five-village alliance. But there are some serious unanswered questions regarding Danzo (such as his connections to Orochimaru, Kabuto and Hanzo) that makes me question Danzo's motives. From what Kishi has unveiled thus far, it's possible that Danzo would intentionally misuse his authority for personal gain if he's handed the reigns of power over the alliance. So I'm definitely hesitant to give Danzo the benefit of the doubt. There are certain things that we as the manga readers know about Danzo that would cause a huge brouhaha if certain characters found out about them. The Raikage is already skeptical of the Sixth Hokage, so just imagine how the Raikage would flip out if he learned that Danzo intentionally screwed up the Fifth Hokage's battle plan against Pain, with Danzo going so far as to hold back his forces and disobey the Fifth Hokage by killing the messenger toad. If the other Kages knew that Danzo committed treason against Konoha, how could they be confident that Danzo wouldn't commit treason against the five-village alliance? And let's not kid ourselves, a Leaf villager who intentionally overrides the Hokage's emergency executive decree has committed the crime of treason. That being said, the I'd be more comfortable with Danzo leading the alliance than the Raikage. The Cloud Village's shady reputation is so big that it overshadows Danzo. The fact that this village was arming itself during a period of disarmament makes me question what the Raikage would do if he was appointed to the most powerful post in the Narutoverse -- commander of the five-village alliance. And when I really think about it, I don't like the idea of any sitting Kage serving as commander of the alliance. I know that the five villages (supposedly) have the mutual interest of eradicating Akatsuki, but thee could be a major conflict of interest of a sitting Kage holding two hats -- leader of his village and leader of a multi-village force. A sitting Kage being in charge of the alliance would challenge where the commander's loyalties lie. The commander has to make decisions that are in the best interests of the alliance, even if those decisions would have a detrimental impact on his or her respective village. So if Danzo accepts the role of alliance commander and all of the parties accept that, then I think Danzo should have to resign as Hokage in order to be eligible to serve as alliance commander. The best person to lead the alliance is a powerful shinobi who everyone can agree on. When Senju Hashirama became Hokage, everyone agreed that Hashirama should be Hokage. If there is a shinobi who everyone agreed should be the commander of the alliance, then that's the person who should lead the alliance. If that person happens to be a Kage, then I maintain that no sitting Kage should be allowed to simultaneously serve as the alliance commander. In some ways, Naruto would be ideal as the commander, because he would lead it in a way that addresses the Akatsuki threat while focusing on the larger issue of how to forge world peace. But then there's the fact that Naruto has no experience as a simple platoon leader. Heck, we don't even know if Naruto could run a lemonade stand. But an answer can be found in applying some of Mifune's logic. Since Konoha has possession of the Kyuubi, this makes a powerful argument for why a Konoha ninja should be the commander of the alliance. And since Kakashi is Naruto's Team 7 superior, and knowing Kakashi's reputation and that he was a nominee for Hokage, I'd say Kakashi is the best person to serve as commander of the alliance, assuming this alliance actually comes to fruition and isn't DOA. |
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| JediKnight | Jul 31 2009, 11:59 PM Post #22 |
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Danzou killed the messenger frog cause, he didn't want Akatsuki to get Naruto. Which is very understandable in my opinion, especially with Pain being the one invading Konoha. Nobody is 100% innocent in Naruto ok alomost nobody. There probably 10 people the most. My point in that, Danzou is no worse than anybody else. Who can really judge Danzou on his actions, WHO. Naruto is nowhere near ready to lead the 5 great nations. He's not ready to lead a genin squad or group of his peers yet. Danzou is right Konoha,right for the shinobi world and right for us. I'm about to go outside and staart telling people vote for Danzou :lol: :D |
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| ryukitsune | Aug 1 2009, 12:14 AM Post #23 |
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Actually, If it wasn't for the delay, Naruto would most certainly have had a harder time. |
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| GokakyuNoJutsu | Aug 1 2009, 12:16 AM Post #24 |
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Doing the wrong thing for the right reasons is still doing the wrong thing. There is no justification for a treasonous offense. We all know that the Fifth Hokage, like Danzo, didn't want Akatsuki to get Naruto. The only difference is that the Fifth Hokage was extremely confident that Naruto would be able to defeat Pain where as Danzo was extremely confident that Pain would capture Naruto if Naruto was quickly summoned back to Konoha from Myobokuzan. |
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| Elyon | Aug 1 2009, 12:29 AM Post #25 |
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Wrong thing? Keeping the most valuable thing in the village from falling into the hands of someone who wants to destroy countries with it is wrong? The last thing they needed was for Naruto to be captured. FYI, that wasn't treason. If anything, sending Naruto straight to be captured is treason. |
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