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Chapter 559 Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 12 2011, 06:38 AM (19,358 Views)
Shikamaru
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Shocker! (or maybe not too shocking?) The other shoe finally drops and we learn Tobi isn't who he always claimed to be.
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MrPhenomonal
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So first Tobi was Tobi. Then people thought Tobi was Obito followed by Tobi equalling Danzo. However then we found out Tobi is Madara only to find out Tobi isn't Madara!?!

I can predict a huge amount of hatred for Naruto this chapter.
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Phoenix2591
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I for one liked this chapter and the trump card was surprising but then not all at the same time. I think a few ppl have apologies to make about tobi not being madara cos i can remember a lot of ppl getting ridiculed everytime they suggested that he wasn't
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Esheapok
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Tobi is madara ofc. Just in zetsu reanimation. This revelation show what he ment by "becoming whole". And why he needed the rinnegan.

I called it back at the chap with the coffin, so no shocker, but still a nice twist
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Jadakiss
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I think many of us readers knew what was in that coffin but this is getting good.
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Akatstewie
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Now people can resume their Tobi = Obito theories...

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Phoenix2591
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I still don't believe he is obito but i think you are right i forsee many discussions as to who he really is. We have suspected for so long that he isn't madara that the twist was a little anti-climactic, but that doesn't mean i didn't like it just wasn't much of a surprise. I would like to hear who you guys think he really is cos i am not too sure at the moment myself
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Zen
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I so called it. That's Madara's body and somehow Tobi/Madara is some kind of put together body which whould explain a lot of things.
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gray uchiha
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man i was right a while ago... i knew it and this chapter is freken awesome! just because madaras back!!! :D
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Phoenix2591
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i am interested to see how the resurrected madara fares against todays ninjas. we might get to see the true height of the uchihas powers which would be cool.
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flcpge
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Maybe Tobi is one of the other clan members... like Bubba Ray Uchiha or Jimmy Joe Jack Uchiha. :FP:
Edited by flcpge, Oct 12 2011, 07:45 AM.
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kjbakiran
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How could he be summoned if he's still alive. Could he have a more advanced technique than yondaime where he can summon death god but was able to free his soul?
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AburameSenpai
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i figured as much, and given all the recent info we've been given about Shisui, i assume "Tobi" is actually Shisui, Madara's brother, or someone entirely new we don't know about, but that would be highly unlikely in this late stage of the story.
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James Bailey
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It's exciting thinking of Edo-Madara joining the war. Edo-Madara vs. Edo-Itachi anyone?
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kjbakiran
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Oct 12 2011, 07:45 AM
It's exciting thinking of Edo-Madara joining the war. Edo-Madara vs. Edo-Itachi anyone?
That battle would be awesome.
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AburameSenpai
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all in all, this was a much better chapter than last week's, and gives us a good preview of upcoming battles.
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i would love to see resurrected madara go up against itachi. i think madara would have more powerful techiniques but itachi is one of the cleverest characters we've seen it would be a great fight, but i think itachi is going after the fake madara though. either way i can't wait to see itachi fight
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Talleyferro
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Here comes the "I always knew it" discussion train...And I am jumping on board.

I for one demand a full summary apology from Twilight Ninja.

And here is what happened...
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It's Madara

Key Facts:
Kabuto: "I haven't told anyone"
Kabuto: "I've taken IWR beyond what the Second and Oro did"
Madara isn't in his original body (he doesnt bleed his own blood and whatnot) , also, he is referred to as a shell of his former self.

Here's what happened
1.Madara was dying after fighting the First. He had himself, a fully whole Black Zetzu, and the First's cells.
2.Madara has enough strength to split his soul, Voldemort style, into its Yin and Yang parts. He then splits Black Zetzu and puts half his soul into the Black Zetzu half. He then also creates the white half Zetzu for black zetzu as a thank-you card. To get it to a reasonable strength level, he needs the First's vitality (coming from the Sage's younger son). That's where the cells come in.
3. Kabuto took the IWR to another level by being the first capable of summoning half a soul.
4. Madara won't/can't fight Kabuto and Kabuto is CERTAIN that he cannot lose by the implied threat that if Madara fights, it will be a catch 22 of sorts. If Madara defeats himself, he could potentially lose half of his soul forever. If he loses to himself, well, he would be dead.

as a side note, this allows Kishi Kabuto to summon Madara as a trump card to fight the alliance. We would get to see old school Madara's abilities
while still preserving the current Madara's fighting style/abilities for future chapters.


And I wasn't kidding about that apology Twilight...lol. I am so petty.
Edited by Talleyferro, Oct 12 2011, 07:53 AM.
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gray uchiha
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i dont want edo madara to fight edo itachi... i want madara "kabuto" to capture naruto so the other madara zetsu cant finsh his plans :P its the only way trust me im a doctor...
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kjbakiran
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Who is much stronger? Edo-Madara or rinnegan-madara
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kjbakiran
Oct 12 2011, 07:53 AM
Who is much stronger? Edo-Madara or rinnegan-madara
Edo-Madara, probably why Rinnegan-Madara or "Tobi" freaked so much when Kabuto showed him that coffin in the beginning of this arc.
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tobi is probably cells used from madara as zetsu is cells used from the first. This is much better than the sage of the six paths, real madara looks so bad ass
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gray uchiha
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also i belive that edo madara has the memorys of the madara thats still alive "that little brat naruto managed to grow"
Edited by gray uchiha, Oct 12 2011, 08:01 AM.
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Oct 12 2011, 07:54 AM
kjbakiran
Oct 12 2011, 07:53 AM
Who is much stronger? Edo-Madara or rinnegan-madara
Edo-Madara, probably why Rinnegan-Madara or "Tobi" freaked so much when Kabuto showed him that coffin in the beginning of this arc.
hehe,. :D I guess your right. too bad hokage's can't be summoned anymore. they would be putting one hell of a battle.
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the artwork on page 16 is absolutely brilliant it gave me chills of excitement
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