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Chapter 560 Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 19 2011, 07:36 AM (15,955 Views)
Shikamaru
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Further advanced to the Rinnegan? Ehh. Okay, I'll go with it for now. I just wish Kishimoto would throw us a bone about how the Byakugan fits into that mess.
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Lunacy Divine
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Meteor!
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Zen
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Well Naruto's over.
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MrPhenomonal
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Oct 19 2011, 07:38 AM
It all makes sense now. The man behind the mask is a Jenova Remnant while Uchiha Madara is a Sephiroth clone. Jyuubi is actually Jenova and Naruto & Sasuke were both SOLDIER first class explaining why they are so overpowered. :P
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Talleyferro
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How long will it take for complaints about the Byakugan to emerge.

...oh, the first post. that was fast

So, perhaps Naruto, under high pressure, completes the Tailed Beast Bomb to blow up the meteor, Bee somehow comes in to blast it with his tailed beast bomb or old man Kage blows it up. I want option 3, with the Tsuchikage dying in the process. Or perhaps he and Muu will team up.
Edited by Talleyferro, Oct 19 2011, 07:47 AM.
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Prophecy
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Oct 19 2011, 07:38 AM
Well Naruto's over.
How u figure? Or is that sarcasm..?

On another note where is itachi when u need em most. I want to see his reaction to esp Madara and to rape the giant pebble in the sky.
Edited by Prophecy, Oct 19 2011, 07:49 AM.
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Mohrpheus
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I guess the Hyuuga got the short end of the stick as far as inheriting the Sage's power goes.
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Zen
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Shikamaru
Oct 19 2011, 07:36 AM
Further advanced to the Rinnegan? Ehh. Okay, I'll go with it for now. I just wish Kishimoto would throw us a bone about how the Byakugan fits into that mess.
I quote from a mastermind called Eric Kripke.

"Some things are better left a mystery rather having heard a disappointing explaination."

His answer when asked in a interview if he will ever explain Ruby's knife on Supernatural.
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narutotrainer
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i liked Madara's Susanoo. It seems to be a two faced being. I wonder if he got the second face from Izuna. So Im sure we can agree madara is badass, but I want to see Haashirama go all out. If madara was afraid of Hashirama, Hashirama was too powerful.
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Great chapter, dont understand tho how kabuto altered his body when edo madara stated that he gained rinnegan before he died
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FictionReader98
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So an Uchiha can advanced to the Rinnegan now? Since they are from the same family and heritage, I guess it does kinda make sense, but do we really need to go this route? I'm guessing you need to achieve EMS in order to advance to Rinnengan. Though that does beg the question on how Nagato fits into all of this.

Though now that I think of it, back during the Itachi and Sasuke fight, didn't Itachi mention that a further power/technique was awaken when one achieved EMS? In addition to dealing with the whole 'blindness' thing, back in 386?

Well, let's see how this goes. In any event, I'm so calling Sasuke awakening the Rinnegan now.
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well.. this may seem far out but....i'm seeing this battle like naruto will never get out with only the tailed beast bomb.... i mean.. that won't work with someone who had the reputation of manipulating the bijuu like madara... give this scenario... far out as it may seem.. i personally think that naruto will awaken the rinnegan himself.... :)
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James Bailey
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Oct 19 2011, 08:22 AM
So an Uchiha can advanced to the Rinnegan now? Since they are from the same family and heritage, I guess it does kinda make sense, but do we really need to go this route? I'm guessing you need to achieve EMS in order to advance to Rinnengan. Though that does beg the question on how Nagato fits into all of this.

Though now that I think of it, back during the Itachi and Sasuke fight, didn't Itachi mention that a further power/technique was awaken when one achieved EMS? In addition to dealing with the whole 'blindness' thing, back in 386?

Well, let's see how this goes. In any event, I'm so calling Sasuke awakening the Rinnegan now.
Remember that Madara took some DNA from the 1st before he died. This would explain how he activated the Rinnegan before he dies. Couple that with Kabuto saying he brought Edo-Madara back better than his prime and BOSH. Uber-Edo-Madara!
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Mohrpheus
Oct 19 2011, 07:46 AM
I guess the Hyuuga got the short end of the stick as far as inheriting the Sage's power goes.
As far as we know byakugan is not mutation of rinnegan, nor it has anything to do with Rikudou.

I really liked this chapter due to lots of explained questions:
Now we know how is possible that what Tobi said "that he gave rinnegan to Nagato". If tobi is some part/image/whatever of Madara then he could be there when madara died and he could take his eyes and implant it into Nagato.
This also explains how can Rikudou`s descendants have sharingan in stead of rinnegan.
And why madara knows so much about recent past and still looks like his youngerself.

But what bothers me is that if naruto is now facing ET madara with ability to combine rinnegan and EMS abilities plus ability to regenerate his whole body. (which looks like the most powerfull enemy out there)
Then what more can bring fight with Tobi and his six realms or fight with Sasuke?
(IMO only way for kishi to keep this manga interesting after this fight is that ETmadara would kick everybody`s a$$ until itachi force kabuto to end ET, otherwise if aliance manage to stop madara then fight with Tobi and Sasuke will be just copying the strategy from this fight)

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Edward Newgate
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Madara's Susano has four arms two heads,so will Sasuke's Susano also possess four hands.And if he does then will it have the abilities of both Itachi,s susano and Sasuke's. I mean to say that a it will have a bow coated in the flames of Amaterasu,Yata Mirror and Sword of Totsuka.
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The Tsuchikage
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Oct 19 2011, 07:47 AM
Shikamaru
Oct 19 2011, 07:36 AM
Further advanced to the Rinnegan? Ehh. Okay, I'll go with it for now. I just wish Kishimoto would throw us a bone about how the Byakugan fits into that mess.
I quote from a mastermind called Eric Kripke.

"Some things are better left a mystery rather having heard a disappointing explaination."

His answer when asked in a interview if he will ever explain Ruby's knife on Supernatural.
HAHAHAHAHAA



And Susano'o was Epic in this chapter! love his dual 4 armed version. Love the combo attacks from each shinobi.

And that meteor. If it were to be blown up at that height, it would be like Krakatoa! That amount of mass could only to be neutralized by the Tsuchikage, and flown away.
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The possibility of Itachi stopping Kabuto is very plausible. I actually have been expecting it for quite some time, but i guess it would have to come after Kabuto pulled out his trump card. Now that Madara is out causing kaos, Itachi would most likely find Kabuto and put an end to him. The problem is that even if he does stop Kabuto, Itachi will also go with him, and Tobi-madara, now has the knowledge to use ET.

It's getting real good, but unless Madara falls by the hand of someone other than the alliance, this is going to make the story hard to follow without dislike.
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Ren-san
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I am wondering what in the world Kabuto has planned now that he has summoned Madara and gained the information that he needed confirmation for?

One thing is for sure and that is the fact that Madara is definitely a shinobi who is living up to his reputation.

Gaara strategy to use his sand to force Madara out of his Susanoo was a good play. Unfortunately, it wasn't enough to stop someone of this caliber.

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how about this scenario. the sage's son, who inherited the eyes is tobi.. and his name is nagato. and the nagato we know, is a different nagato, who was given the rinnegan by the first nagato in order to complete his plan, hence the "im going to take my eyes back" thing.as far as to how he survived so long, maybe the fact that his eye can open a different dimension has something to do with it. the other dimension could slow down time,though not enough to styop him from getting to old age, and then when he created zetsu he made a new body for himself using zetsu. this would explain his reaction when kabuto showed him the trump card and his obsession with wanting to control the world using the jyubbi, because he wants to one up his father and show he made the wrong choice
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Oct 19 2011, 08:33 AM
Remember that Madara took some DNA from the 1st before he died. This would explain how he activated the Rinnegan before he dies. Couple that with Kabuto saying he brought Edo-Madara back better than his prime and BOSH. Uber-Edo-Madara!
We talking about the same Madara here? Tobi back in his skirmish with Konan mentioned he had the power of both Uchiha and Senju, but I don't recall the Edo version here doing as such. And based on Kabuto and Edo Madara's chat, it seems like Tobi really is a different individual than Uchiha Madara that battled the First Hokage.
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Justice
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I was looking forward to this since last week. I'm disappointing about the advancement from Sharingan to Rinnegan. I honestly wouldn't mind that if you advance but lost the previous eye. I don't understand how he can change from Sharingan, to EMS, and finally Rinnegan. It's a bit far fetched. That power should have been kept only for Tobi.

Byakugan, as always is left out and really has no history to it. As far as the fighting goes, it was very nice. Naruto and Gaara make a good team. I really am interested to find out how they will stop Madara who is in every way stronger then when he was alive.
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so nagato...had a sharingan before he had a rinnegan?

what...?
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First of have to say if you don't like this chapter then you should not be reading the manga. It lived up to all expectattions still leaves a few unanswered questions but so far so good. The whole rinnegan being an upgraded sharingan thing needs to explained as nagato never had a sharingan, but for now i will take it as is. 10/10
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oblivion
Oct 19 2011, 09:13 AM
so nagato...had a sharingan before he had a rinnegan?

what...?
Nope.

Madara gave it to him. And now (I guess?) we know how.

Phoenix2591
 
First of have to say if you don't like this chapter then you should not be reading the manga.
Here we go again. Get your hardhats.
Edited by Mohrpheus, Oct 19 2011, 09:23 AM.
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Oct 19 2011, 09:10 AM
Tobi back in his skirmish with Konan mentioned he had the power of both Uchiha and Senju, but I don't recall the Edo version here doing as such.

Tobi stated that he'd gained Hashirama's power during the VOTE battle, which - even if you assume that Tobi and Madara are different individuals - sort of implies Edo Madara had something to do with it, considering he referenced the fight and is "impersonating" him to begin with (though I still doubt they're actually different people, given the evidence). James Bailey is most likely right; the genetic material for the Uchiha and the Senju combined would theoretically meet the ultimate requirement for a Rinnegan, and effectively another Rikudou incarnation.

About Nagato, I think it's becoming increasingly obvious that the Rinnegan was literally (as in, not metaphorically) given to him.
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