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| Chapter 605 Discussion | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 9 2012, 10:45 PM (8,856 Views) | |
| Shikamaru | Oct 9 2012, 10:45 PM Post #1 |
Paperwork Kage
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VIOLENCE but not much in the way of explanation. |
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| Mohrpheus | Oct 9 2012, 10:48 PM Post #2 |
Glory with the Moon. Mercy on the Earth.
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Now that was some ultraviolence if I've ever seen it. |
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| Orochimaru Sora | Oct 9 2012, 10:50 PM Post #3 |
The Eye of the Ophidian
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Again. Sunday Bloody Sunday, anyone. Gives us a little more of a hint that Rin "might" have been a spy after-all, hmmm. |
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| Salamanca | Oct 9 2012, 10:50 PM Post #4 |
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Can't kill an idea
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So Obito thinks he is in hell or at least acknowledges that there's hell on earth. So this can be the why Obito sided with Madara. It's weird that while I was reading this chapter I was listening to Dexter's Blood theme song. I also come to like Obito more than any character in the manga. I like anti heroes or antagonist better than heroes or the good guys. |
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| Syndacite | Oct 9 2012, 10:51 PM Post #5 |
Yep its back.
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Why can't we have violence like that more often? I swear Part 2 hasn't had much at all until now. |
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| BHM1250 | Oct 9 2012, 11:02 PM Post #6 |
Genin
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So much blood. Did Naruto suddenly turn into Berserk? |
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| Movado | Oct 9 2012, 11:02 PM Post #7 |
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Ninja Academy Student
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So i wasn't wrong, he got 3 tomoe then it went to MS. |
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| KRIDEN | Oct 9 2012, 11:06 PM Post #8 |
next time... use 3 tails.....
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im just flabbergasted by kishis ability to give us all a swift kick in the groin for doubting him (for those of us who admittedly doubted whether or not he was still in his right mind) |
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| Movado | Oct 9 2012, 11:08 PM Post #9 |
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Ninja Academy Student
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Hope this confirm to the world that if kishimoto really wanted Sasuke to be a "cold blooded killer" he could have easily done so with EXCELLENT style of bloody slaughtering. Obito WIN!!!! FLAWLESS VICTORY!!!! ummm, im sticking with my Mei theory, why they wanted Rin body so bad? something have to be special about it... ummm Edited by Movado, Oct 9 2012, 11:12 PM.
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| Twilight_Ninja | Oct 9 2012, 11:25 PM Post #10 |
Jounin
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Looked more to me like it was 'gained' in the transformation between forms. He still had two at the start. But yeah...wow. Obito went on a freaking rampage. :O_O: Oh, and he and Kakashi gained the Mangekyo at the same time. So Kakashi's had it all along. |
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| Banks | Oct 9 2012, 11:28 PM Post #11 |
Sarutobi Clan
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Loved the violence. I was right about him going 3 tomoe also but i guess i was wrong about when and where he obtained MS. Obito must hav had some GREAT POTENTIAL to jump right to 2 tomoe, and then to 3 and MS at once!!!!! If Obito can use Moukuton, why didnt he use it now against Naruto, wouldnt that help stop the kyuubi?? And the mist did want something from or with Rin's body. Probably was a sleeper agent...i kinda like the Mei theroy too. Dont agree with it but it would be cool to actually see them united. If Tsunade can heal all them. Now we know how kakashi got MS...he got at that same moment and with training he must have been able to utilize it at will. |
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| Movado | Oct 9 2012, 11:36 PM Post #12 |
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Ninja Academy Student
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Also, this chapter made Kakashi stocks drop faster than facebooks... All these years he had MS and never used it? should i count on my fingers the amount of time could have used it? I don't want to hear no excuses, there shouldn't be any because over a short time he learned to hit fast moving objects, so in his prime he should have done way more with MS. Very disappointed, but then again, Kishimoto can only clean up so mush loophole without leaving a few head scratchers Lol |
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| KRIDEN | Oct 9 2012, 11:38 PM Post #13 |
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next time... use 3 tails.....
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well.. seeing as how he fainted from just gaining ms....you would think maybe it wastn until recently that he felt he had the stamina to use it.. or maybe he hadnt realized he had it until he saw itachi use it the mei theory? did i miss someone mention this in a previous topic? Edited by KRIDEN, Oct 9 2012, 11:39 PM.
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| Banks | Oct 9 2012, 11:43 PM Post #14 |
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Sarutobi Clan
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yea. Some people speculated in the previous topic that Rin was a spy or something and that Mei is actually Rin and thats why they wanted her body. |
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| KRIDEN | Oct 9 2012, 11:47 PM Post #15 |
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next time... use 3 tails.....
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well. the spy thing i can buy//we have seen ,per the kabuto flashback, how villages can have someone immerse themselves in another village with nobody being the wiser.......the her bein mei...........no...no basis for that really |
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| Cheetah | Oct 9 2012, 11:49 PM Post #16 |
Sound Ninja from the Cloud
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Interesting chapter. Seems we'll be getting at least one more before we return to the present. I was hoping for more explanations. But this wasn't bad. Like the last chapter, I felt this one went by quickly. I can't wait to see all this animated. These Uchiha and their anger... So it's clear that the Mist had some sort of possession over Rin. I can't wait to finally hear what her situation is. I'm sure Kakashi will explain. I wasn't hoping for it at first, but now I'd like to see Kakashi and Obito team up. Kakashi seems exhausted from not only battle, but emotional stress. And there's no telling what his limit is on his signature tech at this point, or even the number of times he used it without rest. This also goes along with Madara saying that they're living in a false reality. Something being under Rin's surface. Could someone explain said Mei theory to me? I haven't heard it. |
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| The Tsuchikage | Oct 9 2012, 11:59 PM Post #17 |
Chuunin
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*plays the Slayer song Raining Blood I figured kakashi would not chidori Rin for no reason at all. But both their eyes going MS was quite interesting. Like Sasuke did as a kid when he blacked out. |
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| BHM1250 | Oct 10 2012, 12:05 AM Post #18 |
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Genin
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Rin being Mei? I honestly don't see that happening, since she literally has no motive to spy. But then again, Mei is the most mysterious kage. I can see Rin being her twin sister though.
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| Cheetah | Oct 10 2012, 12:59 AM Post #19 |
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Sound Ninja from the Cloud
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A question that instantly came to my mind was: Why did Kakashi wait until Shippuuden to whip out his MS? Others have had the same question. I speculate two things. For starters, he passed out immediately after he got it, so he may have no been aware of it for quite a while. Possibly. Also, the only technique he knows with it drains a lot of chakra. He could've attempted using Kamui a few days later, or even two years later, but was unable to execute it. To put simply, he may not have had enough chakra use Kamui. During the chase with Deidara, he seemed very familiar with it and prepared, as if he had been practicing. What I'm also wondering is if Kakashi's MS activated through Obito's activation, or if they just met the requirement to activate it at the same time. I'm gonna assume they activated it at the same time though. Edited by Cheetah, Oct 10 2012, 01:07 AM.
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| Wreck | Oct 10 2012, 01:27 AM Post #20 |
Emokage, Village of the Hidden Tears; Land of the Slit Wrists
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May rin is an uzamaki? And they wanted her as a host like the hidden cloud.. Although her hair ain't red. Bahh who cares. Maybe obito puts some first hokage goo in her?!! And heals her... And eventually have a kid named.. KaRin? ..or This I'd the pont where Obito becomes Mizukage? Edited by Wreck, Oct 10 2012, 01:38 AM.
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| Cheetah | Oct 10 2012, 01:42 AM Post #21 |
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Sound Ninja from the Cloud
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Hmmm... I wonder if the reason they wanted Rin links to Obito becoming Mizukage. Also, they established that the Bloody Mist period... lulz... totally didn't mean to do that, but I refuse to use my backspace key. Anyway, the era had already begun. I believe we were arguing about that a couple of weeks ago. |
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| Movado | Oct 10 2012, 01:58 AM Post #22 |
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Ninja Academy Student
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I think if you follow the series logic Rin was a spy. White Fang lived by his duties, a young Kakashi lived by his duties and that's would equal to Rin's death... But kishimoto did this too good, that look on Rin's face was not one of a spy and i know kakashi wasn't planning on killing Rin and then himself since they were surrounded. Either way, see Rin and Mei having a strong connection, i just don't find it funny how pretty Mei is and how cute Rin was Lol... I also like this i got from Naruto.wikia "Mei as the Mizukage can be seen as a sign of change for the village as ninja with kekkei genkai were once feared and persecuted in this village. Mei herself has stated that the dark days of the village were over." sounds logical why she was shipped of to Kohona and after being recognized, she was hunted which brings us to the current chapter... ummm |
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| Jadakiss | Oct 10 2012, 02:14 AM Post #23 |
Genin
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Seem liked he learn of it after his encounter with Itachi. This revelation kinds of take a little bit away from Kakashi for me, since I thought it was his genius that probably unlocked MS. Didn't have a clue how but maybe through some kind of meditation. |
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| P-r-o-ph-e-c-y | Oct 10 2012, 04:31 AM Post #24 |
Ninja Academy Student
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I don't feel it takes anything away from Kakashi. I mean ya he is a genius but he has had the sharingan for like 3-6 months at this point probably and it could well be he didn't remember about it after he wakes up (Sasuke after his family died). Also Kakashi has 1 draw back in this series and that is his stamina is craptastic so if he does pass out every time he uses it, at first, you would have to think that wouldn't be a good tactic in a battle. On Obito- Think he was a little mad? |
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| Nobu-naga | Oct 10 2012, 05:27 AM Post #25 |
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That was a bloody violent chapter! xD It seems to have hinted that Rin was a spy (one of the Mist ninja said something about "don't let the enemy get her body!"). If this was true, it would drive Obito into further hell. Basically, he's already psychologically disturbed, seeing as how Kakashi killed Rin and to have found out that Rin was in fact a spy, it would drive him to think how the ninja world is based on nothing but war and that there was end to it. There was no peace for them children ninjas, and that was what had driven Rin to be a spy. Obito for one feels betrayed by everything, I should think, at this point. So of course he would pursue Madara's idea. Of course he would seek out peace in the most drastic way! And of course he's angered by Kakashi! I'm guessing that Kakashi would have the fame of killing all the Mist Ninjas that night, seeing that he's got the MS BUT no one would know that it was actually Obito! And he's mad that some Sharingan bearer who is not an Uchiha got the fame of killing people by borrowing such power! To tell you the truth, I kindda feel for him! :( Can't wait! As always! |
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